1. Registration trouble? Please use the "Contact Us" link at the bottom right corner of the page and your issue will be resolved.
    Dismiss Notice

1970 Jeep Rebuild

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by Rozcoking23, Feb 8, 2011.

  1. Nov 15, 2023
    Jw60

    Jw60 Cool school 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Sedalia MO.
    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2008
    Messages:
    4,821
    I would guess it's the 8" of flat on the inside of the arch. wfo has .25" shims for spring under with an offset drilled and tapped hole.
    https://www.wfoconcepts.com/i-30504791-leaf-spring-axle-relocation-plates.html
     
    Rozcoking23 likes this.
  2. Nov 15, 2023
    vtxtasy

    vtxtasy oldbee 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor

    Tucson, AZ
    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2006
    Messages:
    1,462
    If you like the ride and location of your spring perches now...I don't see why these wouldn't work for you.
    Eliminates a lot of grinding and welding. Bonus...more fuel tank clearance.
     
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2023
    Rozcoking23 likes this.
  3. Nov 15, 2023
    vtxtasy

    vtxtasy oldbee 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor

    Tucson, AZ
    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2006
    Messages:
    1,462
    Rozcoking23 likes this.
  4. Nov 16, 2023
    Rozcoking23

    Rozcoking23 RUN & GET BIT! 2024 Sponsor

    Stockton, CA
    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2008
    Messages:
    853
  5. Nov 16, 2023
    Rozcoking23

    Rozcoking23 RUN & GET BIT! 2024 Sponsor

    Stockton, CA
    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2008
    Messages:
    853
    I was wondering about the length of the perches I showed being too long. I didn’t do the math on the height drop, I think you’re right about possibility of axle wrap.
    Think I might try out the WFO plates at a 1/4” and see how they work out, $39’s isn’t bad.
     
  6. Nov 16, 2023
    Jw60

    Jw60 Cool school 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Sedalia MO.
    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2008
    Messages:
    4,821
    I Re-read the details and they are .5" thick. Still way easier than chopping perches or hangers. If the location works and you need the 1/2" back then drill the existing spring perch and use the offset u-bolt plates with them. The bolts will still clamp the same just the center pin location moves.
     
    Ol Fogie and vtxtasy like this.
  7. Nov 16, 2023
    vtxtasy

    vtxtasy oldbee 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor

    Tucson, AZ
    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2006
    Messages:
    1,462
    Being OCD about these things, I would relocate the hangers. Not really liking the offset of center on the axle pad nor would I want
    to grind and re-weld them back on. It is eight welds compared to four and may need the perches moved slightly for optimization.
    This would also give more leeway such as moving 1-1/8" forward instead of 1". That in addition to no drop in lift or axle shifting with slotted bolt holes, etc.
     
    Ol Fogie and Rozcoking23 like this.
  8. Nov 20, 2023
    Rozcoking23

    Rozcoking23 RUN & GET BIT! 2024 Sponsor

    Stockton, CA
    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2008
    Messages:
    853
    While I’m still thinking about moving the rear axle forward and what route I want to go, I started removing the parking brake off of the back of the Dana 18.

    IMG_2959.jpg IMG_2958.jpg
    I did get the drum removed but didn’t get any pics. The pan is leaking so while the oil was drained out I ordered a new pan from Novak, should be here Wednesday.
     
    vtxtasy and Fireball like this.
  9. Nov 21, 2023
    Rozcoking23

    Rozcoking23 RUN & GET BIT! 2024 Sponsor

    Stockton, CA
    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2008
    Messages:
    853
    I was also looking for a rear bearing retainer that didn’t have the post for the parking brake lever, anyone have a suggestion where to find one? Did a quick google search and didn’t have any luck.
     
    vtxtasy likes this.
  10. Nov 21, 2023
    Fireball

    Fireball Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Pullman, WA
    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2018
    Messages:
    5,719
    Post a WTB ad in the forum classified section. They've changed hands there before. They generally came on early trucks and wagons.
     
    Rozcoking23 likes this.
  11. Nov 21, 2023
    vtxtasy

    vtxtasy oldbee 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor

    Tucson, AZ
    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2006
    Messages:
    1,462
    I believe the post is just a press fit. It is a dead hole with no threads. I removed mine long ago. Don't see any
    reason to replace the retainer as I believe they are the same length and it won't be necessary to re-set the preload
    on the bearing.
     
    Jw60 likes this.
  12. Nov 21, 2023
    Rozcoking23

    Rozcoking23 RUN & GET BIT! 2024 Sponsor

    Stockton, CA
    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2008
    Messages:
    853
    Good to know…I’ll take a look at it tomorrow when it’s on the bench and see I can get it out without messing the retainer up.
     
    vtxtasy likes this.
  13. Nov 22, 2023
    Rozcoking23

    Rozcoking23 RUN & GET BIT! 2024 Sponsor

    Stockton, CA
    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2008
    Messages:
    853
    IMG_2964.jpg
    got all the parking brake stuff removed except the rear bearing retainer. IMG_2965.jpg IMG_2969.jpg
    shot of the gears, still look like new.
    IMG_2970.jpg
    IMG_2971.jpg
    the over drive unit has a leak where the cap attaches to the body. Need to find a new gasket.
    IMG_2968.jpg
    Oil was black and a little dirty but had no metal shavings in it. Needed changing anyway after 6 years.
     
  14. Dec 2, 2023
    Rozcoking23

    Rozcoking23 RUN & GET BIT! 2024 Sponsor

    Stockton, CA
    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2008
    Messages:
    853
    Finished up removing parking brake and servicing transfer case by replacing pan with a Novak pan and replacing several seals to fix leaks.
    IMG_2989.jpg
    IMG_2990.jpg
    IMG_3010.jpg
    used old skid plate had to do a little straightening. I’ll get some metal and build a new one.
    IMG_3016.jpg
    IMG_3017.jpg
     
  15. Dec 4, 2023
    Rozcoking23

    Rozcoking23 RUN & GET BIT! 2024 Sponsor

    Stockton, CA
    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2008
    Messages:
    853
    Filled transfer case with oil to finish off that project, (still want to make new skid plate).
    IMG_3018.jpg
     
  16. Dec 4, 2023
    Rozcoking23

    Rozcoking23 RUN & GET BIT! 2024 Sponsor

    Stockton, CA
    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2008
    Messages:
    853
    Got my new u-bolts (5/8”) and spring plates with 3 holes so I can move rear axle forward.
    IMG_3028.jpg IMG_3026.jpg

    IMG_3027.jpg
     
  17. Dec 4, 2023
    Rozcoking23

    Rozcoking23 RUN & GET BIT! 2024 Sponsor

    Stockton, CA
    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2008
    Messages:
    853
    I had some 3/4” x .120 wall that I cut some 3” pieces for shock studs.

    ' IMG_3024.jpg
    I found some shock studs in a cabinet that will work
    IMG_3023.jpg
    I drilled the 3/4” tube to 5/8” to fit the studs.
    IMG_3025.jpg
    I will weld these together before I weld them to the spring plates.
    IMG_3029.jpg
    IMG_3030.jpg
     
    Ol Fogie and homersdog like this.
  18. Dec 4, 2023
    Jw60

    Jw60 Cool school 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Sedalia MO.
    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2008
    Messages:
    4,821
    Those are beefy. Looks like you have all the hardware in place with sockets and shims but your shocks are pretty low... any thoughts on nibbling a bit off the flange and putting the shock stud up tight to the spring pack?
     
  19. Dec 4, 2023
    Rozcoking23

    Rozcoking23 RUN & GET BIT! 2024 Sponsor

    Stockton, CA
    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2008
    Messages:
    853
    When I was rolling around under the JEEP messing with transfer case I was looking at the spring perches that I had used from Ruffstuff and they were already drilled with the extra holes to be able to move axle forward or back. This will save me some work.
     
    Ol Fogie likes this.
  20. Dec 4, 2023
    Rozcoking23

    Rozcoking23 RUN & GET BIT! 2024 Sponsor

    Stockton, CA
    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2008
    Messages:
    853
    Funny you said something, I didn’t drag out the welder today because I’m not happy with the low shock placement. I’m open to all suggestions.
     
    Ol Fogie and Jw60 like this.
New Posts