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Offset Dana 44 with flanged axles

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by mntbuggy, Mar 16, 2015.

  1. Mar 17, 2015
    Mike C

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    Ridiculous how expensive they are, but they only made them for a short time and everybody wants one! Supply and demand...

    I have a J3000 with a 44 in the rear that I am thinking about narrowing and putting intermediate CJ5 housing ends on. I have the CJ donor axle, the J3000 donor, and I own a Strange housing jig, so I think I can do it for the price of axles and bearings. But that's still going to be close to $500 if I had to guess.
     
  2. Mar 17, 2015
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  3. Mar 17, 2015
    mntbuggy

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    I went back an looked at the 44 I bought today. It has clutches on the outside of the axle spider gears is this the power lock???
     
  4. Mar 17, 2015
    mntbuggy

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    I know nothing about this axle, the person or place. I just happen to be in pittsburg for a job. I have no use for it as i am building a D44 full float axle.
     
  6. Mar 17, 2015
    nickmil

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    I'm guessing you mean between the case and differential side gears. If the case halves bolt together then probably a Powerlock. If the case is cast as one piece and has two large windows, one pinion shaft, and only two pinion (spider) gears then most likely a Trac-Loc.
     
  7. Mar 17, 2015
    jpflat2a

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    By the time you rebuild it the way you want it (gear set, limited slip, bearings, brakes etc etc) you'll still end up at 1K or more.
    I bought mine for $300 and by the time I was done I was at $1200.
    You need to be realistic on what these axles will truly cost.

    I have a complete, rebuildable flanged 44 right now in my garage that I paid $XXX for and drove 100 miles to get.
    It's for a friend.
     
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  8. Mar 17, 2015
    mntbuggy

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    Looks like it is a track loc.
    Will this work for a light duty application
     
  9. Mar 17, 2015
    mntbuggy

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    The more I look the more I learn. Thanks for the input. I don't mind driving a couple hundred miles.
     
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  10. Mar 18, 2015
    Warloch

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    If you torque the axle Nut right, not running a truck 4 speed and 33s like me (with a locker). You will be fine with the axle you have assuming it's in good shape. I ran them for years before going to the FF due to those items I listed.

    I looked for a flanged setup for a long time - then went the FF route.
     
  11. Mar 18, 2015
    Focker

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    I talked to the seller from the CL ad posted in this thread. He was cool and willing to ship across the US, 47v6 was more cool and willing to be my inspector in person...Thanks Chris! It would cost way too much for shipping and changing the gears etc..

    The more I think about it the more I'm leaning for FF. I have 11" brakes rebuilt and ready to go. I won't make a move until I break something again. I think I like the idea of having the "correct" axle more than anything else. I'm only running 33's because they were on the Jeep and the tread is good enough that I don't want to spend the $ on new tires.

    Questions:
    Isn't breaking a key in a tapered axle better than something else more expensive?
    What's the vulnerable point in a flanged axle?
     
  12. Mar 18, 2015
    duffer

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    If it still has the stock spider gears, they are it. The rest is actually well matched. The problem with shearing the key on the two piece axles is that it is usually more than just the key and you may end up replacing hubs and/or axle shafts. That said, I agree with Chuck that in normal use, they can last a long time. The key operative being "can". Highly dependent on driving style.
     
  13. Mar 18, 2015
    mntbuggy

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    What are the thoughts on running a posi with the 2-piece axles????
     
  14. Mar 18, 2015
    mntbuggy

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    That was my thoughts also. The shipping will be a lot since it will have to go truck freight. Maybe just run mine till I stumble on one kinda locally!!!
     
  15. Mar 18, 2015
    jpflat2a

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    Ran that way for years and years myself.
    No issues till I broke an axle (fatigue I guess) replacement axles at that time were no longer USA made.
    Broke 2 more axles (cheap foreign axles) changed to full float and USA made axles. No more problem.
    Recently changed to flanged 44 because the opportunity arose and it will take more abuse. (not that I abuse my jeep)
     
  16. Mar 18, 2015
    nickmil

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    I ran the tapered axle for years with serious abuse including racing. Never had a problem with the flange/axle/keyway as long as the axle nut was kept torqued. I replaced them with full float because I started twisting the axle splines (oem axles) and flat tow a lot.
     
  17. Mar 19, 2015
    mntbuggy

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    Sounds like i should be safe using my tapered shaft and a posi. Just don't side step the clutch HA HA . Thanks for all the help guys
     
  18. Mar 19, 2015
    windyhill

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    I have 2 extra off set flanged 44's I also am in PA though.
     
  19. Mar 19, 2015
    Focker

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    You East coast guys are killing me!
     
  20. Mar 19, 2015
    mntbuggy

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    you would not be planning a road trip to KS anytime soon HA HA
     
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