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'72 - '75 CJ5 Transmission floor plate needed

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by LBOGRS, Jun 17, 2009.

  1. Jun 17, 2009
    LBOGRS

    LBOGRS Member

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    Anyone know of a source for a new/used floor plate that covers the transmission and t-case shifter holes? I'm also looking for the boots/bezels that cover the T-15/Dana 20 combo.

    Thanks.
     
  2. Jun 18, 2009
    rixcj

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  3. Jun 18, 2009
    nwedgar

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    I normally check ebay for that kind of stuff. The link above is for a different year I believe. My 74 looks nothing like it.

    Boots can be found at most "jeep" stores online. Of course you can find them on ebay also.
     
  4. Jun 18, 2009
    timgr

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    Yep. That's for a '76 and up. Not compatible with '72-75.
     
  5. Jun 18, 2009
    ConstantJoy

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    I suppose I should spend more time over on this more 'pure' forum focused on my '74.......So, I hope I am welcome and I come bearing gifts...

    I have an extra shifter cover that holds the boot for the trans shifter. The boot for the transfer case is held on by a metal ring/bezel that attaches to the shifter cover on the driver's side and the floor on the other. I may have an extra ring. Both would need some clean up and paint. Can be yours for shipping and a good 12 pack........

    I appreciate the wealth of information you guys have and look forward learning as well as sharing my humble knowledge.
     
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  6. Jun 19, 2009
    lynn

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    Constant, that's a generous offer to a fellow Jeeper in need.
    I'll suggest that the two of you carry on any negotiations for the items via PM...
    and we welcome your participation in this forum!
    Got pics of your '74 and a story? Post 'em in the introductions forum.

    I'm thinking we have some other members near you...
     
  7. Jun 19, 2009
    ConstantJoy

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    Lynn, Thank you for the welcome and suggestions, I overlooked the introduction section.

    LBOGRS - PM sent.
     
  8. Jun 19, 2009
    LBOGRS

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    Thanks for the offer ConstantJoy...

    As for the ebay image...the '76 and up cover looks pretty flat. Makes me think my glass body tub is intended for a '76 and up, rather than a '72-75. The tunnel area on my glass tub is about 2" higher than the rest of the floor pan, and is flat.

    A quick discussion regarding the differences between the '72-'75 floors and '76-up floors would be helpful. Anyone have any ideas/suggestions?
     
  9. Jun 19, 2009
    lynn

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    I put a glass tub on the '71, it was also pretty flat. I think they're all that way because of the variety of transmissions that may be infolved. I used a flat piece of sheetmetal for my plate, cut out for the tranny intrusion (significant with the T18 I ran), then bought a boot/retainer from the local International 18-wheeler parts dealer, made it fit...

    Here you can see part of it:

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    The hole for the D18 twins required the bezel to be bent a bit.

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    No pics of the front of my plate, it was bent to follow the upward slope of the floor to the dash, then screwed into place with self-tapping sheet metal screws into the 'glass.

    HTH!
     
  10. Jun 19, 2009
    LBOGRS

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    Thanks. Those help, but I'm trying to remain as original as possible, in spite of the glass tub. Here's a link to some pics of what I'm dealing with:

    http://s663.photobucket.com/albums/uu353/LBOGRS/?albumview=slideshow

    You may notice that the trans and t-case levers are not protruding out of the hole very far. This is due to the 3" body lift that the PO installed. I'm removing the body lift along with replacing the seat brackets to original. The driver side seat bracket is already semi-installed as shown.
     
  11. Jun 19, 2009
    rixcj

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    Your glass tub is definately NOT a '76-'86 model. Mine is, and here's a few pics, showing the difference...

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    Of course, it's been modified to accomodate the twin stick shifters.

    Yours appears to be a much flatter surface.

    Rich
     
  12. Jun 19, 2009
    timgr

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    This is a stock '75 drivers side floor.

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    The central floor covers in a '75 are still removable, but in '75 Jeep decided to start welding in the larger floor covers that were removable from the M38A1 through '74. You can see the edge of the panels that were previously removable. This change foreshadowed the new floor design for 1976.

    Passenger side:

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    BTW the 4-speed floors are different, covering a taller transmission and a larger hole in the floor. The 4-speed removable floor covers extend further toward the driver's side and the edge is held down by sheet metal screws.
     
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  13. Jun 19, 2009
    HeavyIron

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    1974 4 speed passenger side
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    Driver side
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    I need some new boots
     
  14. Jun 19, 2009
    timgr

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    Click. Save.
     
  15. Jun 20, 2009
    LBOGRS

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    Awesome guys. Getting a clearer picture - no pun intended - now. Here's what I've got coming my way. Looks like it is correct for the '75, although seller says it came out of a '73

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    timgr

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    The only difference between a '73 and a '75 is that parts of the '75 floor are welded in, that would otherwise be bolted in for '73. The shape of the floors that I posted is correct for all 3-speed M38A1s, CJ-5s and CJ-6s from 1952 (1953?) through 1975.
     
  17. Jun 20, 2009
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    Tim Estes

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    I am not sure when they actually made that change from bolt-in to welded transmission tunnels. I have a '74 that has the welded version (see attached pics) that the PO did a complete hack job on to get the T18 installed. I am now faced with figuring out what I REALLY need to fix everything. There is a rust through spot on the drivers floor above the hat channel (of course) that needs addressed, both sides have cancer on the hat channels and I have this trans tunnel mess. I am not sure what the best way to attack this...I am considering buying the Classic Enterprise floors and hat channels, but that leave me with a mess over the transmission/transfer to still deal with. Any suggestions?
     

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    timgr

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    This is interesting. I don't recall seeing a '74 with the spot welded floors, but there clearly are some. What month was this Jeep built?

    When Jeep installed a T-18 at the factory, they cut back the floors to fit. The factory floor plates covered up the area that they hacked away. I think your best bet is to trim back your mangled floor edges and fab a new cover that spans those trimmed floor edges. It is possible to cut out sections of the floor and replace with plain flat steel, rather than buy complete floors from Classic and commit to extensive replacement. How were you thinking of going about this?
     
  20. Mar 25, 2021
    Tim Estes

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    Thanks timgr, I am not certain on the build date as the yellow sticker normally found on the dash is long gone, I am 99.9% certain the dash is from another intermediate anyway due to the various layers of paint colors (non of which match my tub) found there. Can the build date be determined from the VIN? If so here it is: J4F835TH93805 As I said in a different thread, I love Jeeps because of the universal nature, but at the same time hate them for the same reason :). Seems like parts from EVERYWHERE end up installed and no one knows the difference...until someone knows the difference.

    As I only have one small spot of actual rust through a floor pan (drivers side below pedals) it would be easy enough to weld in a small 8x8 patch, however, the hat channels on both sides of the jeep are shot so it looks like I will be forced to pull the tub and replace those anyway. If I am going to do that I figure I may as well install new floors and completely complicate my life LOL. For the trans tunnel, if I cant locate a stock part to modify for the T18, I will have to fabricate something out of 18ga that looks pleasing and won't completely ruin the stock look I am going for.
     
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