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Renegade 1 Or 2

Discussion in 'Early Jeep Restoration and Research' started by rossbos, Jun 30, 2007.

  1. Aug 9, 2007
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    That was Renegade 1 that sent that too me, not Rossbos. :beer:
     
  2. Aug 9, 2007
    Renegade 1

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    besser I'm not sure what is meant by EVAP I just assumed it is the cali smog emisions as my cousin bought the Jeep in Cal.

    As to the VDO plate I'm at loss also. The jeep does have skid plates under the trans and also the heavy plate under the oil pan.
     
  3. Aug 9, 2007
    beeser

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    Curious, does your R1 have a fuel vapor canister?

    Oh, and thanks for making your paperwork available to us to look at.
     
  4. Aug 9, 2007
    beeser

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    Actually, I think all of the paint/trim codes thus far have been 999/340. At least I haven't noticed any exceptions.
     
  5. Aug 9, 2007
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Yes, that would be good to have that information in the article. I forgot about the trim code. Thanks Beeser. :beer:
     
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  6. Aug 9, 2007
    WYOMIKE

    WYOMIKE Oct 1971 pic

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    Renegade I, I see by your serial number the sixth # is a 3 which means that "a 3 indicates left hand drive california exhaust emission control engine". The FSM does not say anything about Calif. items, but I bet besser is right that it is some kind of fuel vapor canister.
    Also on the VDO question, I notice that on your sheet with the option list, down towards the bottom there is a notation that says"refer to VDO for specs" I bet the VDO plate was that plate they put on the firewall next to the bat. that listed special items, etc. I have seen these on some special order JEEPs

    Yeah thats what I meant, having a tail gate.:oops:

    Thanks for sharing your document:beer:
    Got pics???
     
  7. Aug 9, 2007
    Renegade 1

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    Yes it does have the fuel vapor canister

    Originally Posted by beeser
    "Actually, I think all of the paint/trim codes thus far have been 999/340. At least I haven't noticed any exceptions."

    Ready for an exeption this trim code is 338, the seats are a buckskin color.:smash:

    The only tag I see near the battery is the one that indicates the paint and trim code.

    I will look some more and see if I can find another tag that might be a VDO.

    Your welcome for the paperwork I believe in sharing knowlegde and plus it makes these Jeeps so much more interesting not that they are'nt interesting already.

    Thank you all for a great website.
     
  8. Aug 9, 2007
    Renegade 1

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    Wyo Mike I just noticed you asked about pictures. The next item on the to do list is to wax it. After I get it done I will send the pics to someone who is more computer savy than I am that would be willing to post the pictures.
     
  9. Aug 9, 2007
    beeser

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    Renegade 1 - 338 = Buckskin in the FPM too. Kinda thought you might come up with an exception. Hope you can shoot some pictures of the seats when you figure the pic posting thing out.
     
  10. Aug 12, 2007
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    dnb5853's looked like a decal when I saw it yesterday, which runs counter to what WYOMIKE said. :?
     
  11. Aug 12, 2007
    WYOMIKE

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    Sparky now I think about it I have 2 thoughts on this. Please keep in mine that I am going back about 36 years, and its hard to find files in my memory from that far away, I am not even sure I can find them in my FAT area:rofl:

    First thought. About 9 months after I drove it off the dealer lot, my Dad wanted to borrow my JEEP. I said sure, but remember that its not like his old CJ-2 and it can get up and go. Of course he said " I have been driving JEEPS before you were even born, and know how to drive them". You know the story, anyhow to make a long story short, he did a bo bo and dented the hood a little and scratched it. I was out of town and my Dad took it to be fixed. It seems like now that I think about it, when I picked it up, I am thinking that the guy said something about not ordering the blister decal, just the side ones, and just painted the blister. Again this was a long time ago, so I would not bet the farm on it.

    My second thought. After what my Dad did, I thought it would be a good idea to order a decal kit for it just in case something happened again. I ordered a complete decal kit and it did not come with the blister decal. Also sense then I have seen 2 other Renegade IIs that I know were original and I don't remember them being a decal. One of them that I know was a original Renegade II had the blister paint really weathered and you could see the yellow paint under it.

    For years and years I was always thinking that the blister was painted, but now I am not too sure.:oops: :?:oops:Someone on the forum a while back had a original parts manual and posted some pics from it of the decals. I wonder if who ever it was could look in the manual and see what it shows.

    On a side note if anybody is interested, I still have those original decals that I ordered a long time ago. When I revamped my JEEP I did not want to use those original decals because of some water damage to one of them, so I sent them to Frank Sanborn (sp) up in Mich. to make me a new set. He used my original ones for a pattern to make the new ones, so if anybody wants a new set just like the original ones, they might talk to him.
     
  12. Aug 12, 2007
    sparky

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    David's hood blister was peeling exposing orange underneath. As far as he (I) knows it's all original. :)
     
  13. Aug 12, 2007
    sparky

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    BTW, I've added some more updates to the article.

    Thanks to dnb5853 for his Jeep, I snapped some pictures of some features of the Ren II and added images along with general edits.
     
  14. Aug 12, 2007
    rossbos

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    The reason I originaly asked if the hood blister was paint or a decal was because the renegade decals offered by Goldeneagle are $179 for renegade 2 and $99 for renegade 1. Couldn't understand what the big difference in price was when the side decals are the same.
     
  15. Aug 12, 2007
    Zoomer

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    This is what my parts book shows:

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  16. Aug 13, 2007
    org1970cj5

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    The blister on my 71 was painted. I'm actually trying to find a paint code for the charcoal black paint. I can take pics if someone needs them but I've already started restoring the Jeep so it's pretty well torn apart.
    Robert
     
  17. Aug 13, 2007
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    I stand corrected, David's is paint that is peeling, not a decal (which is what you all were trying to tell me all along). ;)
     
  18. Aug 13, 2007
    rossbos

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    I would be interested in the paint code for the blister also. If you find it please post it.
     
  19. Aug 13, 2007
    WYOMIKE

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    Rossbos
    Because Renegade IIs are SO much more classier and you pay more for class items R)R)
    Being serious, it makes no sense to me why there would be any price difference. Order a set, and then we will all know.;)

    Sparky what all did he say about the wheel well pads? I have never heard or saw of any on a Renegade II and my first thought was that they were a dealer option or something. But the material and the way there made is just like my factory dash pad. I just know for sure mine never had them.
    Did you get a serial number from him?
     
  20. Aug 13, 2007
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    I'm sure I can. They looked stock to me.

    Perhaps it was carryover on the dealership from a Tuxedo Park?

    I assumed they were factory stock, perhaps not.
     
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