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Scott's '66 Continuous Modifications.

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by Buildflycrash, Feb 28, 2018.

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    colojeepguy

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    Lots of Commandos had Turbo 400s. Also Buick cars prior to '66 came with 225 and the Super Turbine 300 auto trans.
     
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    vtxtasy

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    The valve covers look like oddfire. In '75 the bottom of the cylinder head changed to a less squared off corner on the oddfire where the
    valve cover attached. Requires a particular valve cover or Offenhauser to work.
    The crankshaft picture will tell for sure.
     
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    vtxtasy

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    The cylinder head will tell if it is a pre-'75 which would be oddfire unless the heads were changed. A picture of the head with
    the cover removed would help or pull the oil pan. From what I can see of the picture...it looks like the rods are on the same journal.
     
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    Buildflycrash

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    I’m going to dump 5qrts of brand new oil and pull the oil pan.
     
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    Just save the oil and reuse it. No reason to chuck it if its new.
     
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    Rich M.

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    You physically can't put an even fire or odd fire 231 cam in a dauntless due to the difference in cam bearings.
     
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    vtxtasy

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    There are some other physical differences such as separate gear and something with the pump cam maybe.
     
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    Well I did.

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    vtxtasy

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    It is definitely an odd-fire engine. Now the work to get it running begins. :beer:
     
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    Ok time to slow down. Glad I went back and Checked this thread I started several months back when I first got into this engine.Seems the Cam and lifters Did come out of My Dauntless that I scrapped and not out of the 231. :bananatool:

    Post #27
    http://www.earlycj5.com/xf_cj5/index.php?threads/157103/page-2

    So now I’m back to looking at the Distributor. And I saved a few hundred dollars. :clap:
     
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    Whew!
     
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    It looks like you have a Buick sourced distributor from 1964-1965. It takes a Standard DR439 cap.
    This is the cap shown in the picture with the window in the side and not on the terminal like the later
    distributors which used a DR442 or DR442T. The caps match up with notch in the distributor. All this
    takes it back to getting the correct sequence of the #1 in the firing order.
    More information on caps from your recent post.
    http://www.earlycj5.com/xf_cj5/index.php?threads/147474/
     
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    Didn't you have it pertronix converted when it was on the 5 hitter?
     
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    I did.
    I started it again today with that same ‘66 distributer I had on the shelf. Same issue - Firing on passenger side, Cold on driver side. Thought I’d try 180* out and got the classic backfiring right away.

    I’m still stumped. :confused:
     
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    What he said. And add a picture of the the inside of the distributor. I had a bad timing light that through me off time in a big way.
     
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    It is possible to mark the harmonic balancer to each cylinder. It'll be a process but with the pan off bring each cylinder to TDC and use a paint stick on the balancer at the timing mark. Sharpie the cylinder number on the line with a fine 0. Wash rinse repeat. Then check your cam to the crank and your distributor to the cam.
     
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    Here’s TDC

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    Here’s #1
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    The wires I know well. 1 is the closest cylinder, 6 is way over there 5 in the back over here 4,3,2,
     
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    vtxtasy

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    Number one has to coincide with the right cam lobe on the distributor shaft for the correct sequence of firing. This is accomplished by
    re-stabbing the distributor, turning the distributor or moving the plug wires.
     
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