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Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by pilebuck, Apr 14, 2011.

  1. Apr 14, 2011
    pilebuck

    pilebuck Member

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    pilebuck

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    steering swap

    Has anyone used a cast jeepster steering box mount on a cj5 frame.I have one but the frame it came off of a 71 commando had a wider frame that it fit into.My frame isnt as wide for the steering box mount i.d is diffrennt thanks :v6:chainsawguy
     
  3. Apr 14, 2011
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    nickmil

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    I did that to mine and the Daughter's '70 as well. On the Daughter's '70 I added a plate on the front of the motor mount for a little extra support.
     
  5. Apr 14, 2011
    Vhunter

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    I mounted a 1971 commando steering bracket onto a cj3a frame, no problem. You should be able to mount it to a cj5 frame wih no problems. Using the commando bracket is the easiest way to mount a saginaw steering box, either manual or power. A cj3a frame is the same dimensions as a cj5, a cj5 frame just a little longer in the front frame horn.
     
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    pilebuck

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    Thanks i know i need to notch now.I am going to get a double ball joint knuckel tomorrow 40 bucks from a friend georges jeep in kent.thanx for doing my pics.I will let everyone know how my progress goes will take alot of pics.
     
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    pilebuck

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    Maybe but when i took it off the jeepster i was resesed to fit inside the frame.The bolt holes came down thru the frame rail.And the side ones were long to go thru the frame into the box.If my frame was wider it would fit inside the way it was how else would you mount it ? I think it would stick out to far.
     
  8. Apr 15, 2011
    Vhunter

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    I am at a lost as to what you have, a picture would help. A 1971 Jeepster commando mounting bracket has four bolt holes that are on the side. The bolts go throught the side of the frame. A Jeepster frame is boxed up front and there are spacers inside the frame for the bolts to go through so the frame won't crush in. The bracket does not go inside the frame with bolts comming down from the top, it just mounts to the side of the frame. I have two of them here that I am looking at, and have used them in the past, they are hard to find, but make the nicest installs, as you do it with stock jeep parts so it looks like the factory did it.
     
  9. Apr 16, 2011
    pilebuck

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    nope mine i have bolted inside the frame of the 72 commando.Ifyou bolt it flush to the frame along the doubler that you box the frame i would break off its only cast thats why on the commando it was made to bolt in the frame i will post a pic.We might be talking about diffrent parts.
     
  10. Apr 16, 2011
    Vhunter

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    Your first post said you had a 71 jeepster mounting bracket, now you say it is a 72 bracket. In 1972 AMC started building Jeepsters and changed the front end of the Jeepster frame. So, the bracket is different, the best bracket for a CJ5 install is the one off of a 71 jeepster.
     
  11. Apr 16, 2011
    Wrangster

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    Go for an International Scout saginaw-box. In my opinion the best saginaw alternative for ECJ5. No problems with the steeringshaft, manifold, steering-pump, motor mounts or anything. Only thing needs to be done is a little trimming on the inner fender, no modifications to the frame other than 3 bolt holes. :)
     
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    jpflat2a

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    do you have a picture of the steering box bracket ?
    you stated the donor had an open knuckle front end
    this might help to explain the year difference bewteen 1971 and 1972
     
  15. Apr 18, 2011
    pilebuck

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    Put my steering box up minus the mounting plate getting everything up to make sure all is right.:v6:chainsawhttp[​IMG]
     
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    pilebuck

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    tempory tie rod ends making sure of line up to mount box
     
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    scott milliner

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    I ran my Steering box below the crossmember.

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  18. Apr 18, 2011
    pilebuck

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    I have seen alot do that i am going to go up to about center of the frame doubler with mine.Is there a reason for mounting it so low?
     
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    jpflat2a

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    so you don't have to modify the crossmember
     
  20. Apr 18, 2011
    pilebuck

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    All i did was take off the edge of it.So i could move the box in and up.My top bolts will be a little above center of the doubler in the frame maybe a little higher.Just got back from picking up the steel for the box mount.And also a piece of pipe to notch my motor mount.I seen a jeep this weekend he had still keep his frount dump manifold and the steering shaft cleared it fine.I want to do that also so down the road i can maybe up grade my clutch to hydralic.
     
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