Detail Picts of vented windshield needed.

WoooHoooo!!!

Just got my vented windshield by Fed EX. Thanks Spud!!

Now I got to restore it. There are a few holes I have no idea what to put in them. Or on them. So if you have any detail picts of the old vented, please let me see them. Or if you kow where I can go see one, that would be great as well. Or at least a shop drawing or diagram of what goes where.

I've found the seals. I've found NOS for the hinges (but I think these are good). I need a replacement for the center bar but I can make one if need be. I might can repair the existing one with luck. Wipers will be replaced with marine units. I can figure out where the upper door hinge goes. I also need a new mirror. It's on a little peg and I don't think I've ever seen a mirror like this. But I can tap for a new mirror without any problem.

Any help or reference would be great. Thanks.............

And WooooHooooo!!!!

 

Banging head on bench,,

 

Here are a couple of pics of mine for reference. I didn't get close-up shots, so I'm hoping you can see the details anyway.

 

Blue Comet - that pict from the backside of the windshield helps. Do you have anything else? More picts or maybe some additional information? I can find the outter/inner frame gasket, the handles/rests on the front top, the brackets that hold the windshield out. Do you have any suggestions on what to do to rebuild or a source for additional parts? I can't find the bar that seperates the windshield. Any suggestions on where to find that? I also am worried about the hinge that is at the top of the inner windshield. Do you happen to have a close up pict of that? The ends of mine are a little bent out of shape and I'm not sure what shape to bend them to.

Once its on the jeep, is there anything I should be aware of....like don't drive over X mph or the wind will slam the windshield shut?

Thanks for all the help...........

 

i have a split vented windscreen in pieces that I'm restoring if you want pics or dimensions

 

Not sure how much help this will be, but the latches that hold the inner frame in place when not open appear to be identical to those from the old 2A's. They come up on e-bay sometimes.

The holes along the inside of the side rail, near where it begins to curve, are for the soft top door hanger/hinge. The two smaller holes just above that, but through the front face of the frame, drilled at a diagonal, are also (I think) for the original soft top hardware.

There should be a footman loop on the driver's and passenger's sides along the top rail of the frame, on the inside, for use in retaining the forward soft top supports. You will also find the familiar diagonal footman loop on the inside in the middle, above the glass, but below the top rail.

The two holes just above that loop are for the rear view mirror. The other holes in the center are for the hood catch on the outside, that would grab the loop in the center of the hood when it is up. The bigger holes on each side above the glass are for the wipers, and the smaller holes to each side are for the mounts for the old vacuum units (they do not mount directly to the frame, but have a little flat mount with two holes in it to attach them to the frame; they act as spacers). The hinge for the inner frame looks like it is welded on, and appears to be a curled piece of sheet metal, with one horizontal cut on each end for stress relief. The top of the inner frame has a flat piece of sheet metal welded to it, with a small bar attached to that; the bar slides neatly into the rolled hinge - like a piano hinge.

I think that was probably my best picture - but I hope the description helps.

 

Thanks. I uploaded some picts. http://s213.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/aallison28/ should like right to it.

What is the diagonal footman's loop for at the top fo the windshield?

Can you remove the inner frame from the outter without much trouble? I can't find any screws yet but I'm still looking.

I have to replace the glass. Body shop dude next door made the suggestion to remove the center support since it's rusted, install a piece of flat bar on the outside of the windshield so it appears to be a two piece glass windshiled and install a one piece glass. What do you all think?

He suggested sandblasting it. What about wire wheeling and then sandblasting what is left?

Take a look at the picts and let me know what you think............

 

The diagonal footman loop is to tie down the windshield when it is resting on the hood. Venting and non-venting early style frames both had them, as far as I know. It looks like you have some work ahead of you, but you do have a fairly complete unit - I'm sure you can make it look new again! Congratulations.

 

If you want to make a trip to Archer you can look at mine close up. I'm taking it to the glass shop tomorrow, so this weekend won't be good, but pm me if you're interested.

hijack here: can anyone confirm that the outer frame is identical with the regular windshields. Sure looks it to me. Only difference seems to be the hinge and latch hardware and the channel for the inner frame attachement, which is just screwed on.

 

When I first got my '62, it had a venting windshield that had been converted into a standard - at least that is my theory. Except for the hinge on top, it looked the same as any other. I would have continued using it had it not been beat up beyond repair.

 

Where is Archer Florida from Jacksonville? I would love to come see it......and the rest of the jeep.


Seems we have two different opinions on removing the inner frame. Maybe I'm misunderstanding but has anyone actually taken the inner frame off and if so, how did they do it?

And thanks for all the help guys. I think this one thread has more vented windshield information than all the information I found during the search............

 

There's a few photos of mine here.... http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/1956 CJ5 windshields/

 

I am 20 miles west of Gainesville.

Just separate the hinge and slide the inner frame out of the channel to remove it

 

Sandhill Mike,

I'd like to make a trip out and take a look. PM me and let me know what upcoming Saturday or Sunday you have free.

Rondog. Good picts. You answered one question as to what one set of holes are for. The upper corner backside of the windshield there is a bracket. It looks like it might be a hardtop attachment point. Am I right?

I also see you have no rear view mirrir. And the glass is one piece. Is it a repalcment? My mirror is attached to the center divider. If your divider has been removed, the mirror might be gone with it.

In the non-vented, what electric wiper did you use? Was it a cheapie or a good one and how does it work?

And I like the idea of having a summer windshield and a winter windshield. As easy are they are to switch, good idea.

Also, seems some of the vented WS's are divided, and some are one piece. Anyone know why? Was one military and one civilian? Export vs domestic? year?

 

OK, started the dissambley of the frame today after a week or so of PB blaster soaking.

I got most of it apart. I figured out the footman loops must be spot welded on because I can so no attchment other then spot weld. One was attached with screws (over the mirror). Most of the nuts broke the screws off when I tried to remove them.

I have tow questions I can't figure out.

First is how to get the glass out. I removed the 4 screws on the left and right side and removed the plates. The sides are loose but the center divider is still tight. It appears the top of the divider is just slipped in between the front side and the back side of the inner frame. BUt I don't want to pull it apart if it's not susposed to come apart that way.


Second is how to remove the rear view mirror. It appears the top of the center divider has a "T' spot welded to the top of the inner frame just above the center divider and the up and down part of the "T" is actually wraped (bent only) around the center divider. Their appars to be a little knob soldered to the "T" and the mirror has a socket that fits over the little know..........a ball and socket joint. But I can't get it apart. Well it was threaded and the threads broke. But I have to replace the mirror so it's really not a big deal.

I can post picts if it helps but I already have a bunch linked above to my photobucket account

Thanks.............

 

I'm thinking that bracket is for a softtop, probably the door hinges there. My v/w is one that I scored from another member in a trade for my stock w/s, it's still sitting in storage, I haven't done anything with it yet. As far as the glass, yes it's one-piece, but I don't know why. Don't know if it's original that way, or if it was modified once upon a time. Mine is equipped with one vacuum wiper on the drivers side, and a manual wiper on the pass. Gonna stay that way!