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T-14 Question

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by greencj5, Mar 11, 2007.

  1. Mar 11, 2007
    greencj5

    greencj5 Member

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    Does anybody know if an input shaft from an early T-14, used with the Dauntless, can be installed in the later T-14's used with the I6 258? If not, then what makes the two transmissions different gear wise? Is the case/bellhousing (or adapter) bolt pattern on the later model T-14 the same as the earlier ones?

    TIA
     
  2. Mar 11, 2007
    Dj

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    They are identical except for that input shaft, which last time I priced a new one plus the gears it meshes to, it was in excess of $500 for those parts.

    On one hand I could spend over $500 in parts to rebuild my shot and trashed 3-speed or I could get a cheap SM420 and spend that $500 on a tcase adapter.

    I did the latter. It's not all back in the jeep yet, but I expect I will be pleased.
     
  3. Mar 11, 2007
    Dj

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    oops, my bad, the spline count on the output shaft is different too... :oops:

    You'd either have to replace the output shaft as well or replace the bull gear in the tcase to a 6-spline.

    Forgot to mention that earlier.
     
  4. Mar 11, 2007
    greencj5

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    Thank's DJ for the input. I was asking this because a buddy of mine just picked up a '69 5 with a nasty sounding T-14. He has a '73 t-14 from behind the 258 laying around. Would he have to replace more than the input shaft or are the gears the same inside both transmissions? I figured the output shafts would be different but a new bull gear would solve that I think. The 420 is certainly a good alternate but more $ than if he could combine the two 14's.
     
  5. Mar 11, 2007
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    If the t14 is just growling real loud the problem is the bearings not the gears.
     
  6. Mar 11, 2007
    66cj5

    66cj5 Jeep with no name

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    I recall reading some where that the ratios are different (ie: the I6 has a slightly higher 2nd, the rest are the same). but I can't recall where.
     
  7. Mar 12, 2007
    nickmil

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    Actually, the output spline count for the I-6 and V-6 is the same, 10.
    You're correct about the input being different. They will interchange no problem. Nickmil

    Meant to say the input gear will interchange no problem.
     
  8. Mar 12, 2007
    nickmil

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    Gears are the same and so is the output shaft. Nickmil
     
  9. Mar 12, 2007
    greencj5

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    Many Thanks Nickmil. :beer:
     
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