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Replacement Body Types?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by ghost122488, Jan 31, 2007.

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Which replacement body?

  1. Steel

    36 vote(s)
    69.2%
  2. Aluminum

    7 vote(s)
    13.5%
  3. Fiberglass

    9 vote(s)
    17.3%
  1. Jan 31, 2007
    ghost122488

    ghost122488 AKA Jason

    Leesville, Louisiana
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    Hey, I'm looking for a new body for my '70 CJ5. I would like to get your opinons on the matter. I can choose from fiberglass, steel, or aluminum. Some things that I have already considered are; fiberglass is weak but easy to fix. aluminum is the strongest but hardest to fix since i don't have a gas welder, and steel is like original but rusts. There are other pros and cons about each, but I want to hear what you have to say. I personally would like to have an aluminum body but my dad wants to keep it like original and get a steel body... What do yall think?

    Oh... and of course I would like some info on pricing too...
     
  2. Jan 31, 2007
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Who says fiberglass is weak? :rofl: I often find comments like that come from someone who's never had a fiberglass Jeep tub or tried to bust up a hot tub with a sledge hammer...

    It's not malleable like steel, it cracks, but I'd wager my tub will take more abuse before reaching that point than a steel tub would to dent.

    That said, I really want an original Early 5 tub for my JEEP. :D

    I don't see much more discussion, looks like you found the pros and cons. It's personal preference at this point. I guess other than $$. You probably can get a glass tub cheaper (guessing), but none of the options will be cheap.
     
  3. Jan 31, 2007
    CJ-X

    CJ-X Member

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    Father knows best!
     
  4. Jan 31, 2007
    ghost122488

    ghost122488 AKA Jason

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    Okay, sorry for the fiberglass comment... I guess I am just used to the old fiberglass that gets brittle. Come to think of it... I have a 21ft Kenner bayboat that has taken a serious amount of punishment in the water and barely even shows scratches.

    I also heard that paint for an aluminum body is more expensive than paint for a steel body. Is there any truth to that?
     
  5. Feb 1, 2007
    grannyscj

    grannyscj Headed to the Yukon

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    Nope. Painted production jet boats up north w/ PPG single stage poly. Finish sanding is a little coarser. 180 gr for AL, 320 gr for steel. Long, even strokes w/ the DA on AL, it's real easy to dish or bevel.:v6:
     
  6. Feb 1, 2007
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    I installed a used glass tub on my rig in '95. The tub was on a dead '68, have no idea how old it was, and it had been abused... muffler burns on the bottom halfway through the core, lots of holes, hack job for the pedals/heater/tranny tunnel,3 layers of paint, gray/black/red, peeling and flaking, etc. I patched the holes, got the tub painted in '97 and have been offroading it since. I really like how the tub has held up.
    I'd have no hesitation in going with fiberglass again.
    See my pics in Photobucket.
     
  7. Feb 1, 2007
    timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

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    What do you want to use the Jeep for?

    I didn't vote - I'd say fix the original body. You'll need a 110V MIG, and air grinding/sanding tools make it easier. Save money, learn some new skills, and justify new tools all in one go!
     
  8. Feb 1, 2007
    John O

    John O Member

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    I voted steel. My tub was pretty bad but I chose to rebuild it rather than getting a new fiberglass tub. Something about the look, feel and sound of a steel tub that is so right.
     
  9. Feb 1, 2007
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    I just like the look of the original Early 5 tub, the details that aren't there on a fiberglass tub.

    Nothing wrong with my tub, just doesn't have the same appeal without the indents for the bows, the covered cutout for a gas filler, etc.
     
  10. Feb 1, 2007
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    Just to let you know, aluminum unless it is thicker material is not gonna be stronger than the steel tub. Thats an advertising gimmick. 18 gauge aluminum would be weaker than 18 gauge steel. The aluminum tub would weigh alot less but thats about it.
     
  11. Feb 1, 2007
    schaapveld4

    schaapveld4 1966 cj5 and 1980 cj7

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    If you do go with fiberglass, just remember,
    you get what you pay for.
    I replaced the tub on my cj7 a few years back with one from jc whitney because it was the cheapest, bad idea.
    the whole thing was out of alignment, and after about a year a seem cracked open near the rear wheelwell.
    but as I said, I baught the cheapest thing out there.

    -Matt
     
  12. Feb 1, 2007
    SIDSCJ

    SIDSCJ Jeep addict

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    I knew a guy that used to do boat repair. He'd only use fiberglass tubs on his rigs. He bought the double walled tubs from Quadratech(IIRC) and would fill the void with non-expanding flotation foam. The same stuff used in boats. You could smack them with a 2x4 and they wouldn't crack:rofl: , as he so aptly demonstrated for me. Still, for my tastes, I'm going with a repaired steel tub. As said, much more original detail in a steel tub.
     
  13. Feb 1, 2007
    ghost122488

    ghost122488 AKA Jason

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    Okay, thanks for all the input. I want to make the Jeep look good. I want it to be close to original... I think trying to get it to original might be a bit much at the moment. I see steel seems to be the favorite so I guess steel it is...
     
  14. Feb 1, 2007
    66cj5

    66cj5 Jeep with no name

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    I plan on one day replaceing my tub with a new steel one. wonder if anyone makes a stainless steel body?
     
  15. Feb 1, 2007
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    AFAIK, this is the only stainless body available commercially.

    http://geep.biz/

    I think the guy registered here once and tried hawking his stuff... :rofl:
     
  16. Feb 1, 2007
    jflots

    jflots Member

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    I've been considering a glass body since buying our jeep because we live near the ocean. At night you can see salt air blowing by the street lights. I've done a little research, enough to see there are differences in companies and qualities. A friend put one on his flat fender and painted it a subtile tan with original wheels. You wouldn't know it was glass unless you look closely. Most people think it's original.
     
  17. Feb 1, 2007
    jayhawkclint

    jayhawkclint ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    I voted steel, but I add a rider that states "only if you are going to spring the extra couple hundred bucks for stamped 'JEEP' on the side." If you are not going to get the cool repro tub, then I'd say aluminum would be my second choice.
     
  18. Feb 1, 2007
    cj-john

    cj-john Member

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    I bought my glass body from AJ's in PA. Nice body and extremely strong. I got a tour of the place where they are built when I picked it up. I did have some issues with the front fender alignment but got them worked out. The cool thing about them is you can order them in any color gel coat you want, no painting. Much tougher than paint and if it get's scratched you can't hardly tell. Living in the rust belt I would not have spent the money on a steel body I know wouldn't last very long. It is a little more work because they come absolutely bare, not a hole anywhere. Everything has to be drilled and mounted, everything. That is tough if you don't have a body to measure when your assembling your Jeep. And the wiring is a little more work because of the grounding. All things considered I still like the glass body.
     
  19. Feb 2, 2007
    BlueComet

    BlueComet 1962 JEEP CJ-5

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    I agree with schaapveld4 - I had the same JCW cheapo tub on my CJ7 a few years ago, and it was BAD. It eventually just came apart at the joints, and cracked where it was mounted to the frame. :mad: I never abused it, and drove conservatively.

    Having said that, you do get what you pay for - a good glass tub wouldn't be a bad choice if you buy a quality product. I think they even use Kevlar in some of them! R)
     
  20. Oct 5, 2009
    beeser

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    I saw one of the aluminum CJ5 tubs recently. I don't know if it's stronger than a steel tub but the material is much thicker. It's a very nice product and would be my choice as a replacement. The side panels especially are smooth, straight and without the characteristic dimples caused by spot welds on steel bodies.
     
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