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Protecting Tub Bottom

Discussion in 'Early Jeep Restoration and Research' started by WYOMIKE, Feb 23, 2006.

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  1. Feb 23, 2006
    WYOMIKE

    WYOMIKE Oct 1971 pic

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    Ok folks, here in Wyoming they just started to use salt on the roads:cry: I am in the process of redoing my 71 and am considering painting a bed liner on the bottom of the tub (underneath) to protect it. I want to try and keep everything as stock as I can, but also want to try and protect it so my great grand kids can still use it. What do you guys think, is putting bed liner a no no or not when your trying to stay as stock as possible? I would only put in places that like to rust out and could not be seen.:?
     
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  2. Feb 23, 2006
    sasquatch

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    Why not just a good layer of undercoating?

    The PO of my frame (Boyink) coated it with undercoat, and IIRC made sure to get underneath and touch it up again each year. The result? A frame in BEAUTIFUL shape, up here in Michigan, where there's more salt than road some days.

    The best part is, it's not really a "permanent" modification any more than paint is... I doubt anyone would harass you for not keeping it stock for putting undercoat on it. It's what I plan on doing - painting with a good layer of rust protecting paint, and then undercoating it and keeping it touched up.
     
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  3. Feb 23, 2006
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    IIRC all that frame ever got was Rustoleum Semi Gloss (that's all I ever did, and only every few years). The only thing Dad ever used for undercoating was roofing tar...R)

    Biggest reason that frame survived was Dad was anal about washing the Jeep both at home and work after driving in the salt, and I had it on the road during the winter for only one season in College and 2 plowing.
     
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  4. Feb 23, 2006
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Take this as good advice from someone who lives in the rust capital of North America- Bedliner ain'ta a gonna do it :(. The salty slush will still get into your hat channels & seams. As well as any scratches on the outside. As well as the inside floor. & under the gas tank. All over the drive train.

    I only ever drove Tonk in the summer, the only holes he ever developed where where some idiot body guy bed lined the the front floor- there were still pin holes that (not even salty) moisture got into & proceeded to rust the floor out. Ff course it *looked* great until all the metal was actually gone & the liner fell out :(.

    If you really want to hand your jeep down to your kids IMHO the only resonable plan is to get yourself a beater for winter use & keep your jeep at home, preferably in a warm dry spot.

    Under your bed would be a good spot :).

    H.



     
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  5. Feb 24, 2006
    w3srl

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    ...and there's no substitute for good prep work and a quality primer under the paint. I think I spent as much if not more time prepping UNDER the tub of my flattie than I did on the top side.
     
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    duke54

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    Good coat of primer & 3 coats of good paint should do it:)
     
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    sasquatch

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    Whoops, sorry musta got my facts mixed up. Roofing tar.... you know that does explain a bit! R) R)

    Either way... it's still what I plan on doing. Frame's in the barn waiting to get undercoated right now. Hoping to do that over break.
     
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  8. Feb 24, 2006
    WYOMIKE

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    OK you guys convinced me, I won't coat it with a bed liner, just a real good paint job. Its 30 years old now and has lasted pretty good, but now that there salting the road, I was getting a little worried. As far as parking it in the winter, sorry can't go for that. Like the saying that I always told my wife when it came to raising the kids:
    "A Ship is safe in the harbor, but thats not what ships are for"
    Thanks for the advise:)
     
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    wminmi

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    why not POR-15 the bottom then paint over that?

    Just a thought
     
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    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    The best thing you can do is replace the hat channels and remove the wood inside them. That is what holds the moisture and causes most of the cancer on the bottom. Then just do regular maintenance and keep on top of it.

    I know what you mean - winter is one of my favorite times to play in the jeep. Just love snow, rocks, other objects getting thrown out spinning through the snow with chains on all 4. :)
     
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    vanguard

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    Do what most michigan jeep owners end up doing. Replace the tub with fiberglass. :(
     
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    sasquatch

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    Or escape from Michigan. That's my plan. ;)
     
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    jhuey

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    I don't think so! ;)
     
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    Boyink

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    Mike -

    Do you have a garage?

    One idea I keep noodling is to get 3-4 pop up sprinker heads, mount them on PVC tubing, and slip them under the Jeep. When you get home, turn them on and let them run 10-15 minutes - sort of a Dutch car wash...;)
     
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    WYOMIKE

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    Awwww, humm just not too sure to answer than one about your dutch car wash. I guess if a guy were to built that, he ought to go all the way and have some for the sides and top too:rofl: But then the wife might say something about me builting a nicer shower for "THE JEEP" then we have in the house. Guess I had better forget that idea.!
     
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    sasquatch

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    That is the perfect combination of genious and insanity.... I LOVE IT!!! R) R) R)
     
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    Boyink

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    :)

    You *could* do that...but it's mainly the undercarriage you'll be concerned about.

    I might have tried it already, but my garage drain is clogged and I've never gotten around to cleaning it out.
     
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    Old Bill

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    Any reason you couldn't do that in the driveway instead? Of course in the winter, it might make getting the morning paper interesting. R)
     
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    James P. Enderwies

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    Don't laugh. In sunny So. CA I've done that with a hose end sprinkler to wash mud off the undercarriage after a storm. It works.:)
     
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    Boyink

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    Yeah - seems like a better idea in a garage where you can have heat and a drain.
     
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