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1969 Jeep CJ5 nightmare

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by jobyone, Aug 31, 2005.

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  1. Aug 31, 2005
    jobyone

    jobyone New Member

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    My 69 jeep cj5 has a v6 buick engine in it. Finding parts is a nightmare. I am in the process of rebuilding the ross steering box. Does anyone have drawings of the inside of the steering and the order in which parts go together? :?
     
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    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Hi Joby -

    Welcome to the site. Where have you been looking for parts? Between 4WD hardware and places like Walcks you shouldn't have any trouble.

    Your first purchase should be a reprint of the factory service manual, available for around $45 from www.thejeep.com. Well worth the $$, and will have the diagrams you need.
     
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    speedbuggy

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    Welcome aboard!

    Mike is right. Parts are not hard to find at all. Add to the list www.jeepdoc.com and you can find just about anything you'd need ;)
     
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    jobyone

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    Thanks for the info, but have checked those places. One example, can't get a brake pedal arm for the 6 cyl. They have it for the 4, but not the 6. I have a Haynes manual, but it doesn't show the inside of the steering box. Does the manual you are referring to show schematics?
     
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    Mudweiserjeep

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    I may be wrong but the brake pedals are the same for 4 or 6 cylinder i think.
     
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    Boyink

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    Uhg. Trash the Haynes. The FSM is in a different league when it comes to detail.

    I know we've talked about the brake pedals here before...but can't recall the difference....
     
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    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    The brake pedal is different for the 4 and 6 cylinder modesl. You can have it rebushed with a steel or bronze bushing. I did one for Lynn about a year ago.
     
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    Mudweiserjeep

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    see i was wrong :rofl: :oops:
     
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    lynn

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    The 4 cylinder pedal can be made to work with the V6 if you are creative with some steel sleeve material, such as steel tubing. The 4 cyl pedal is bent slightly differently, but you can sleeve the pin to extend it a bit to match up with the MC pushrod.
     
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    Jeepenstein

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    hehe he said Mc Pushrod... hehe.. can I get that with Mc Fries and a Mc coke?? to go..


    BUBBA
     
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    lynn

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    R) R) R)
     
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    Rondog

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    I'm sorry, but that cat picture cracks me up everytime I see it! That, and Sasquatch's avatar too.

    I just love this place! Damn glad I found it.
     
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    zed

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    jeepenstein.... your avatar is giving me nightmares..... just thought you'd like to know. :shock: ;)
     
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    66cj5

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    could also redo your setup to use the more common :hurrican: parts.
     
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  17. Sep 6, 2005
    jobyone

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    Have figured out about modifying the 4 cyl brake arm. Now for the steering box. Have tried to rebuild it (in and out three times). Both times I put it back in, I couldn't turn the steering wheel. A neighbor said it may have to do with the shims around the sector shaft. What a disaster. Have just about given up.
     
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    timgr

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    Greetings from Boston, jobyone!

    Don't take this the wrong way ... maybe an old Jeep isn't the right project for you? Jeeps are both simple and supported by lots of aftermarket parts, compared to other old cars. They have, in general, seen hard service and were modified (with varying levels of success) by their many previous owners.

    Your neighbor is probably right about the shims. Steering boxes don't work well if you simply take them apart, replace parts, and put them back together. They need to be adjusted properly when reassembled using the correct tools. The best instructions for rebuilding will be in the factory manual: http://www.thejeep.net/catalog/prod...78&PHPSESSID=d9db2c111d1a61e1b89e72cb630daf04

    The manual was listed above, but it bears repeating. Without extensive experience, you've got to have the manual, and read and follow it. Don't be cheap and foolish - buy the manual.
     
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    jobyone

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    Thanks. I am buying that very manual right now.

    Has anyone replaced the water pumps, radiator, thermo, then have the darn temperature gauge go up and down? It actually doesn't go past 210, but it fluctuates between 180 and 210 constantly. It doesn't stay at one mark while driving. Any ideas anyone?
     
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    termin8ed

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    If your staying between those temps, your doing good;)
    ---btw, You've probably got some air trapped in there. Try parking it on a steep incline. Or take it trail riding and bounce it all over:D That did it for me at tellico. ;)

    As far as the steering box goes, hard to tell what's been done with it, but one thing I found out about it is the little set screw with the nut on the side of the box is an ajuster of sorts. If you tighten that too much, it will be really stiff steering.
    I can never remember the names of the gears in there, but I think its the sector shaft that it puts preassure on to take out the slop.

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

    I've had good luck finding parts for the dauntless at carquest. Napa also should have parts. Might have to order them, but they usually get there the next day for me. 4wd in my opinoin doesn't have much of anything for the dauntless jeeps.
    And don't give up! if you have to take a break for a week and go back to it later.
     
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