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Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by tgregg, Jun 26, 2005.

  1. Jun 26, 2005
    tgregg

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    My trans is out and it has a metal tag that reads: PUG J 016398.
    I described it to Herm and he thought it was a Ford 4 speed syncro because of the tin top and the hearst shifter on the side. I'd sure like to figure out what I got, any ideas?
     
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  2. Jun 27, 2005
    lynn

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    I can't cross reference those numbers with any info I have.
    Maybe go to some Ford enthusiast sites... :?

    Measure the tranny case from the front face to the rear face.

    Here is some info I found:
    10.12" front to back, identified as a T & C 4 speed. Has a 10-bolt top cover. There was a OD model as well, from 78-88 Grenadas and F150 trucks. Don't know if these are side-loaders.

    A Borg WArner T10 will have a 10.00" case. Don't know if these are side-loaders.


    NP435 and T19 are top loaders...
     
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  3. Jun 27, 2005
    tgregg

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    Thanks, Itgoes to the trans shop today. I'll let them figure it out :?
     
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    timgr

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    Herm is thinking it's a Ford Toploader transmission. I'd be more inclined to think that your "P" is actually an "R"; that would make it a RUG-J from a '67 Comet or Fairlane 390. Here's a good site about Toploaders: http://www.5speeds.com/toploader.html

    <edit> BTW if it's a RUG you should be able to fit a top from a T-176 Jeep transmission and get rid of the side shift, if you prefer.
     
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    tgregg

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    Wow tim, I'd love to be able to put a top shifter on it. Thanks a lot.
     
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    timgr

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    I think it was Nick that said the T-176 top will fit on the Ford toploaders. Makes sense - the T-176 is a toploader. Hopefully you will get his attention and he'll comment.
     
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    T-176 fits the ford top loader 4 speed
    T-150 fits the ford top loader 3 speeds

    built a few in my antique truck era...
     
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    tgregg

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    Tim,
    Is that number for the whole transmission that I look for the shifter for or just the top?
     
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    tgregg

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    Nick,
    Is that number for the whole transmission that I look for the shifter for or just the top?
     
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    that is the transmission model that you need the top cover and shifter from
     
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