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3b Act Ii

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by 73 cj5, Jan 30, 2022.

  1. Mar 26, 2022
    garage gnome

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    Looks better with the truss removed.

    You should do a TDI swap like I did.
     
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  2. Mar 27, 2022
    Fireball

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    Do I even want to ask what the previous owner was doing with the top steering link on the left knuckle?
     
  3. Mar 27, 2022
    73 cj5

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    That definitely won't be used. These axles were under a Toyota truck and it was a huge mess from what I was told. The only value to it was the aluminum links.

    Yep, it looks way better without the truss.
    I dream of engine swaps but there is an extremely tight budget and if I want to drive it anytime soon, I'll have to stick with what I have.


    I went back out and measured the D60 WMS-WMS and it's ~61 7/8".
    14b WMS-WMS ~62 3/4"
     
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  4. Mar 27, 2022
    Jeepenstein

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    true dedication to the hobby!!
     
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  5. Mar 27, 2022
    73 cj5

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    Got the axles marked for spring perches. The springs will sit outboard about an inch or so in the front.

    Almost $300 for some spring perches and ubolts. Oof.

    I'm thinking about using a WJ or C3 steering gear now. They would alleviate a few steering shaft issues that will arise.

    Many hours of grinding ahead. I should have just bought another frame. :rolleyes:

    [​IMG]

    I have a good scrap pile going again.

    [​IMG]
     
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  6. Mar 30, 2022
    73 cj5

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    I've spent the past couple days grinding off welds on the frame because I got a week off from work courtesy of the flu and covid.

    Ordered all of the leaf spring stuff so hopefully, it'll be a roller in the next few weeks.
     
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  7. Apr 12, 2022
    73 cj5

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    I've been thinking about the engine situation for the past few weeks....L67 Buick, TH350 (full manual), D20 or D300(?).

    I don't know how well the auto would hold up to 3.73 gears and 37" tires but I have a line on a running engine and wiring harness. :sneak:

    Not a fan of slush boxes but a full manual conversion would make it more bearable.

    Thoughts?
     
  8. Apr 12, 2022
    Fireball

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    Supercharged Buick would be cool! The have the smaller bellhousing though, so adapting is required to mate to a TH350?
     
  9. Apr 12, 2022
    73 cj5

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    Right. 60 degree to 90 degree. No biggie
     
  10. Apr 12, 2022
    Jw60

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    LS all things.

    Don't forget the turbos.
     
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  11. Apr 12, 2022
    73 cj5

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    :booo::lol:

    I have a rebuilt 5.3 but it just makes too much sense to swap in something common and I want this 3b to be somewhat different from the rest.
     
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  12. Apr 12, 2022
    Jw60

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    3.5 ecoboost?

    Supercharged Buick 3800?
    NA 3800 is still a boat load of ponys.

    VW TDI

    Chevy 4.3

    Ford 2.3
     
  13. Apr 12, 2022
    73 cj5

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    The L67 is a supercharged Buick 3800.

    4.3- common sense swap choice but no supercharger.
    3.5 EcoBoost- heck no
    VW TDI- $$ & major fabrication required
    2.3- meh
     
  14. Apr 12, 2022
    Fireball

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    Buick Fireball straight eight?
    [​IMG]
     
  15. Apr 12, 2022
    73 cj5

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    Boat anchor :D :ninja:
     
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  16. Apr 12, 2022
    ITLKSEZ

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    He’d be able to check number 7 & 8 plugs from the drivers seat
     
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  17. Apr 12, 2022
    Jw60

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    I guess the engine is settled. now all you need is a flywheel and fabricated bellhousing for a t18, or sm465.
     
  18. Apr 12, 2022
    73 cj5

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    A 2.8 bellhousing would fit the bill and bolt to an sm420/sm465 but I'd have to source a flywheel, clutch kit, etc. The bellhousing is not that easy to find but they're out there. There's one on eBay now for $285 plus s&h. I have a 4x4 sm465 and sbc bellhousing but the transmission needs a rebuild itself. The simple solution would be to just use an automatic transmission.

    Back when I had the CJ2A the thought of using this engine was in my head so I have thought about this particular swap on and off since then.
     
  19. Apr 12, 2022
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  20. Apr 12, 2022
    73 cj5

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    Had one but it's my brother's now. It's a stout engine for its size.

    [​IMG]
     
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