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'66 Cj5 Tux Resto-mod

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by truckee4x4, Jul 9, 2018.

  1. Apr 1, 2021
    montanacj

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    Look into a product called lab metal. I would use that to fill in the pitting. Once dry you can sand it. I just caught up on your thread. Looking forward to more.
     
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  2. Apr 2, 2021
    truckee4x4

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    Well you know what they say about build it versus buy it.

    Sometimes I like a fun challenge so instead of spending $30+shipping on a repop front license plate bracket I measured the top flat part of the rear one and drew it up and cut one on the CNC.

    I asked for some help from some other Tux owners who have original ones about how the support bracket attaches to the bumper, and made my best guess based on their pics.

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    I think the original support bracket is made from channel, and all I have is flat stock but at least I have a better place to put my front plate than on the bumper itself.

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    The sheet metal brake at the Roundhouse is only capable of bending 18ga, so I went to the shop of our welding instructor and he bent the 16ga for me perfectly. Check out this fancy machine!
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    I think I might try and fix my tailgate this weekend. To the fabricators - what’s the best approach to bend some sheet metal around a hunk of bar stock so I can get a good piece to swap in and eliminate the cancer around the bottom? I was thinking I could tack some bar stock to the ends of a piece that's a few inches larger than I need and then use the extra leverage to roll it around the round stock.
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  3. Apr 2, 2021
    Beach66Bum

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    The license plate bracket is awesome! Super job :)
     
  4. Apr 4, 2021
    truckee4x4

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    I spent most of this weekend in the Roundhouse trying my best to repair the “new” set of fenders I got from Sam (PartsDude4x4) last week.

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    At first I figured these were in way better shape than mine, and Sam cut me a deal and sold them to me for $70, however after getting them sandblasted on Friday it became apparent that there was a lot more cancer than I thought.

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    I pretty quickly determined that I am not very good at welding patches into 55-year-old 20 gauge sheet metal.

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    I have never done this before, and I have never tried to put on bondo and sand it. Despite my best efforts there are a lot of undulation around the edges of my patches.
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    Structurally things seem very solid. I am left wondering if these are salvageable, or if I just wasted a bunch of money and should give up and go back on the hunt for new fenders?
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    How much of this can be filled in with body filler?
     
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  5. Apr 4, 2021
    montanacj

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    Looks good to me. I'm new to body work too. At the end of the day thin sheet metal is hard. I noticed you were in truckee, do you know Meg and Mark Dickson?

    That roundhouse place seems to have a lot of cool equipment. I think you are in good hands there.
     
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  6. Apr 5, 2021
    truckee4x4

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    Thanks! I need to find someone who is knowledgeable with regard to bodywork to check out my patches and tell me the Fenders are salvageable with Bondo or not....although I suppose I might as well just keep going and throw some down myself and see what happens. Can't really make them worse!

    Can't say I know those folks...are they connected with Dickson Realty?

    We have a ton of great equipment at RH, it's a wonderful resource for the community; I'm proud to be one of the founders.
     
  7. Apr 5, 2021
    montanacj

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    Meg and Mark used to live near me in Montana. Mark is president of simple power solar and Meg is a yoga instructor. Good people that moved to Truckee 5-6 years ago.
     
  8. Apr 5, 2021
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    Finished the second hole patch in the outside of the LH fender. This one went a bit better as I paid more attention to making the patch cut walls 90 degrees, and leaving a good 1/16" around the patch.

    I sprayed some 3M weld-tru II primer behind everything before I finished them up. UNADJUSTEDNONRAW_thumb_7595.jpg UNADJUSTEDNONRAW_thumb_7590.jpg UNADJUSTEDNONRAW_thumb_7597.jpg UNADJUSTEDNONRAW_thumb_759c.jpg UNADJUSTEDNONRAW_thumb_75a0.jpg UNADJUSTEDNONRAW_thumb_759b.jpg UNADJUSTEDNONRAW_thumb_7599.jpg UNADJUSTEDNONRAW_thumb_759d.jpg UNADJUSTEDNONRAW_thumb_7596.jpg UNADJUSTEDNONRAW_thumb_75a1.jpg

    I won't be getting a job in a body shop any time soon, but hopefully with some Bondo it will be solid.
     
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  9. Apr 5, 2021
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    That will be fine with a little filler.
     
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    Sam must be holding out on me, those fenders look pretty good. I try to remember the new re-pops are crap. Also, if needed there are fender patch panels available from Walck's for like 20 bucks. A lot of work, but original fenders in the end.
     
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  11. Apr 6, 2021
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    Thanks for the feedback. I've seen those panels from Walcks - hoping my patches hold up. Who knows how much rust is back in between the two panels though...

    I stopped by Sam's last week to grab some parts on the way back from the Ford dealer and he had some fenders that came in literally thee day before. If I eventually get these to work I will have the older ones from my Jeep (plus new reinforcement channels) to offer up to anyone that is better than me at sheet metal repair.... I started them and stopped because I didn't think I had the skills to continue. PM me if anyone is interested....

    What is the best approach to deal with some of the deeper rusted areas? I scraped out as much of the scale as I could with a wire brush on my angle grinder, and a cut of wheel, and then hit the rust with inhibitor. Here's an example of a "before" pic of one of those areas:

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    I don't want to go crazy with more welding, so I was hoping to fill these areas. I know Bondo shouldn't be applied at greater than ~1/4" - can I get away with it being thicker here in these divots or should I use something else over the rust inhibitor?

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    (Also in the above pic you can see my wider chalk outline of where I debarted doing a much larger straight repair in case all of the area between the channel underneath and the top skin was rusted. I figured I'd start small and go bigger if needed later).
     
  12. Apr 6, 2021
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    I don't mean to be a ball buster..... but your going through all this work and not just drilling out the spot welds and removing the fender brace?
    Replacement fender reinforcement panels are really cheap on ebay. Within 5 years that rust will start to bubble out.... AMHIK :banghead:
     
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    The reason I’m posting on here is specifically so people who know more about what I’m doing can bust my balls!

    So if you were me and want to do this right, what would you do?
     
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    Finally got all the links correct (y)
    Now that the cats outta the bag..... I should probably panic buy the set that I need before they are all gone. :rofl:
     
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    Cheers!
     
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    @Norcal69 Hahah classic!

    I actually have the fenders that came with my Jeep that I can pull these panels from - on those the braces were rotted out but the rear arch panels are solid - whereas on these the braces were mostly OK but the panel on one was rotted.....I’m getting a sneaking suspicion that the “right“ way to do this is to not stop until there is any rust left on them at all no matter how much replacing and patching and grinding I have to do.
     
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    FYI
    If you put them all in your cart and "request an invoice from the seller".... You can ask them to consolidate the shipping charges to one box. Saved me a few bucks just now.
     
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    Soon I will be moving onto simpler less rusty repairs:

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    I think you can get a little more weld in there. Then just clean it up with a little filler.
     
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