Koenig winch mount part two

Ok I'm back on the Koenig King winch on the front of my CJ5. I am going to have to remove the winch and the homemade winch mount because it sits to low. Does any one have any pictures of how they mounted there king winch I know the drive shaft has to go above the bell crank and below the radiator.

 

The front bumper looks like it came off a Willys truck or Fc-150 I know I have seen pictures of ones like it before. But without all the home made add ons.

 

I found them it went to the utility and pickup models.

 

I'll have to dig around but somewhere I have pics of the factory or dealer installed unit on my '57 CJ-5.


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In my experience the Koenig winch needs to be mounted as high as possible. The u-joint and shaft should just barely clear under the radiator grill.

Then the two piece shaft will be guided by a bearing at the edge of the bell housing, and the alignments can be fine-tuned at that point.

 

I think I recall that on my truck the bumper had to be extended forward. The CJ5 has room to fit a Koenig inside the stock bumper, but as above, the clearances are tight.

 

That's exactly how my Ramsey winch was mounted on the donor Jeep. Pretty safe bet to mount it that way.

 

Ok thanks for the help I have the winch remounted and the have the drive shaft mocked up so its raised above the bellcrank with room to turn the wheels lock to lock. But I am going to need new drive shafts. I checked with Grainger and they only carry 7/8 keyed shaft with 3/16 key ways. I also checked with tractor supply and also had no luck. I'm possibly looking at having them made at a local machine shop.

 

I used junk shafts from the dump. In place of a key and keyway on one, I just through-drilled for a roll pin. Works fine.

 

When your installing the new shafts for the winch, make sure they are going to interfere with the front axles up and down movement. When I bought my cj5 it had a really old Ramsey PTO winch I know nothing about that had only a single driveshaft for it and the first time I offroaded my jeep the axle came up to hit the bumpstop but instead hit my winch shaft first and caused it to shear off my brake lines also resulting in no brakes at that point.

My unknown winch that had the low hanging single driveshaft

 

You do know that if stressed, your roll pin is going to shear, right?

 

"You do know that if stressed, your roll pin is going to shear, right?"

I thought maybe so. But hasn't yet and I pull a LOT of stuff about as hard as the winch can pull. I mean scary hard. Several years of abuse and still going strong.

My old Willys Overland jeep truck actually had a shear pin in the winch driveline.

 

A shear pin could be used as a fuse to prevent damage I suppose.

But what would you be preventing?

 

A roll pin is a different animal than a shear pin. A shear pin is made of a relatively soft material meant to shear at a predetermined load point. A roll pin is made of a spring steel alloy, is not meant to shear and will make a real mess when it does.

just sayin.

 

Exactly.

 

Regarding my using a roll pin, I appreciate the cautions, and getting a better understanding of the theory.

There are different ways to judge engineering goals. Even it if it eventually "makes a mess" it still will have been far less expensive than buying the "correct" shaft..

Meanwhile as I said, in real life it has worked perfectly. (Whereas a technically "correct" shear pin once resulted in my dropping a large tree on a house.)

 

Ok thanks for the help I got the winch mounted and have the drive shafts mounted so that they go above the bell crank and run beside the engine. The winch does have a shear pin its the key on the winch that is made to break if the winch is over loaded. Thanks for the help now I just have to figure out what kind of fair lead I want to use.

 

A good bearing shop should be able to get you anything you need for a drive shaft for the winch.This would include shafting, u joints, key stock and anything else you may need. Good luck!

 

Well here it is I'm finally done here is the Koenig King winch spooled up. I just need to find a brake to keep it from free wheeling when the winch is in neutral.