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Fel-Pro head gasket - Sealant or not?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Project71-5, Jan 20, 2013.

  1. Jan 20, 2013
    Project71-5

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    Fel-Pro 8723 PT-1 head gaskets for the 225. The instructions say that fiber faced gaskets are to be installed dry and thats it, no mention of the head gasket in question.

    I assume that this is a MLS style gasket, meaning no sealant?
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  2. Jan 20, 2013
    jasonjp62

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    From I have read putting F heads together over the years, fiber gaskets go on dry and steel gaskets need a sealant.

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  3. Jan 21, 2013
    AKCJ

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    I've never used sealant on a head gasket. Never even heard of using sealant on a head gasket. I've also been wrong a lot.
     
  4. Jan 21, 2013
    jayhawkclint

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    Some head gaskets require that copper sealant stuff. Fel-pro does not.
     
  5. Jan 21, 2013
    Alex V.

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    I haven't done very many myself, but dear ol' dad (the 30-year Corvette restoration guy) always uses Copper Coat and the few I've done that way haven't had any problems.
     
  6. Jan 21, 2013
    timgr

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    All I've sold and used are the FelPro blue gaskets, which have a teflon coating. They do not need any kind of sealant.

    To me, those gaskets are fiber faced. I expect that a spritz of spray Copper-Coat would not hurt, but is not required. There are thin head gaskets made of just a stamped steel or copper sheet - I expect that is what Fel-Pro is referring to as needing sealant.

    Call or send an email to Federal Mogul, if you are worried. http://www.federalmogul.com/en/ContactUs/
     
  7. Jan 21, 2013
    Project71-5

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    The installation tip sheet that Jason posted is different than the sheet that came with my gaskets. These are not fiber gaskets. The black is somewhat sticky, almost like a thin coating of RTV. The red lines are Printoseal.

    After snooping around some more, I found that these are Fel-Pro PermaTorque gaskets according to NAPA's website. I have an email into Federal Mogul, just waiting to hear back.
     
  8. Jan 21, 2013
    nickmil

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    All the printoseal gaskets I've used said specifically to NOT use sealer in the instructions. I would follow their recommendations if for no other reason than warranty.
    The exception to this are intake gaskets where I always put a dab of sealer where the cylinder head, intake manifold, and block meet. There is usually a bit of a gap there that needs filled to prevent oil leaks. Ymmv.


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  9. Jan 22, 2013
    Project71-5

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    Here is the response from Federal Mogul


    Kind of vague, but I don't see any parting lines on the gasket so no sealant is the way to go.
     
  10. Jan 22, 2013
    jossar

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    I think they mean a parting line on the parts the gasket goes on - like when an oil pan gasket crosses over from the block to the timing cover.
     
  11. Jan 23, 2013
    Project71-5

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    Yeah, that makes more sense I suppose. Either way, no sealant is needed with this head gasket.
     
  12. Jan 23, 2013
    jasonjp62

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    Glad ya figured it out....
     
  13. Jan 24, 2013
    timgr

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    Ah, of course. Good thinking! :tea:
     
  14. Jan 25, 2013
    Project71-5

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    After my head bolt fiasco, I became paranoid and didn't want to re-use the head gasket that was almost torqued down. I ordered a single gasket from NAPA and this is how it came packaged. The other head gaskets (Same gaskets, but part of a master gasket kit) did not come labeled as such, just loose with the rest of the set. This answers my question:

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