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Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by NothingButMud, Sep 18, 2008.

  1. Sep 18, 2008
    NothingButMud

    NothingButMud New Member

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    I have finally gotten a project and it happens to be a 1968 CJ5
    The guy who had it before me did some work on it but I am not sure what.
    My father thinks the motor is Buic after market. Its a V6 and that's all I know.

    It has a 4 bell Holley carb with a Edlebrock intake manifold.

    CLICK HERE FOR PICS!

    Thanks for any information you can help me with on my Jeep!
     
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  2. Sep 18, 2008
    scott milliner

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    I see it has a Buick 231.
     
  3. Sep 18, 2008
    bobracing

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    Column is a late eighties Chevy, since the engine has a PS pump, guessing a saginaw box on the front.
    Engine guessing an odd fire 231, looking at the distributor and wire spacing.
    probably a 390 or 465 Holley carb
    Front and rear are probably stock Dana 27 front, tappered axle Dana 44 rear. These should be marked on the center section webbing.
    Drum brakes
    Xfer is a single lever Dana 18
    Looks to be a stock T90 trans shifter.

    Looks like someone pulled the heater and reinforced the firewall.
     
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  4. Sep 18, 2008
    $ sink

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    not sure but you'd better yank that carb and manifold off and send it to me for disposal. it's for your own good:)
     
  5. Sep 18, 2008
    Walt Couch

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    Strange?? That shifting cane doesn"t look like either one of my t-90 shifters (not to say mine havn"t been re-bent a time or six..
     
  6. Sep 18, 2008
    nickmil

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    Engine is definitely a 231 or at least 231 heads and valve covers. The front should be a 27 as the vent is in the housing not the cover. 25's had the vent in the cover. Saginaw column. GM was the primary user of these but also used in Jeep's and other vehicles. It is later model though. '80's or early 90's from the look of the turn signal lever. Could be from an XJ Cherokee as well.

    Rear is a 44 of some flavor. Someone added the central venting system from the axles. May have tied in the vents from the transfer case and transmission which would be a good thing. If you can, some pics of the trans would also be helpful in identification.
     
  7. Sep 18, 2008
    NothingButMud

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    Wow I have posted these pics on 4 other forums and I have gotten more info from you guys in a few hours then I have in a few weeks elsewhere.

    I will get more pics when I can. It is currently sitting at my parents house across town.

    So now that we have Identified that its a Buick 231 what weight motor oil should I use?
    I will be using Amsoil full synthetic Oil & Filter. Could someone Identify what filter would work for it?
    Also are the axels any good or just stock crap?
     
  8. Sep 18, 2008
    NothingButMud

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    I want to work with what I have for now.
    I want to get it running well and take it out to the mud hole and put it to work a bunch of times.
    When I have a substancial breakdown like a axel break or motor blow up I will do the complete overhaul.
    New Axels, Switch to 350 small block, new transmission & lift it up on 44" SuperSwamper TSL Boggers.
    So for now I keep what I have.
     
  9. Sep 18, 2008
    groomer_guy

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    I would not do that to the jeep but it is your JEEP so do as you please. I like the 34x9.50R15 SS TSL route myself. Around our neck of the woods this is a sweet tire. Good luck with what ever you do.
     
  10. Sep 18, 2008
    NothingButMud

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    TSL's are great but they dont get enough done where I live & play.
    Boggers & Vtread tires are really the only thing that cut threw the mud around here.
    The mud here is like wet concrete with lead.
     
  11. Sep 19, 2008
    willys59cj5

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    Why not get a full size chevy with a 350 or bigger in it. You would probably have more fun. The buick 231 OF is a great motor, but not a high rever or high Hp either. You may be dissapointed the first time you take it in the deep mud.
     
  12. Sep 19, 2008
    NothingButMud

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    When It comes to Mud I actually take it very easy.
    I watch all the idots romp the crap out of their stuff and ruin everything.
    Me I am like a old man. I will get in the mud but I take it nice and slow because I find it more enjoyable that way.

    Back in the day when my dad took this thing in the mud we had no issues.
    If we did get a little stuck we just flipped it in 4 & the torque of the gearing in 4 was just tremendous it had no issues.
     
  13. Sep 19, 2008
    Texas Dave

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    LOL! I've noticed that before as well.
     
  14. Sep 19, 2008
    NothingButMud

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    That was a response I got on another forum.
    Does that sound right to anyone?
     
  15. Sep 19, 2008
    bergy9

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    I have a 1978 even fire 231, I found some place they recommended 15-w40 for oil.
     
  16. Sep 19, 2008
    NothingButMud

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    Whats the difference between the 231 Even & Off Fire?
    Is a change in the weight of the oil gona kill it?
     
  17. Sep 20, 2008
    NothingButMud

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  18. Sep 24, 2008
    NothingButMud

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    Ok dont make me beg.
     
  19. Sep 24, 2008
    $ sink

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    in a nutshell, odd fire engines resulted from Buick designing a V6 by just removing 2 cylinders from a V8. this puts a couple of skipped cylinders in the firing order. fire fire, skip, fire fire, skip fire fire... gives the engine a bit of a lope.

    in the mid 70s when buick was using the engine again they decided to redesign to smooth the engine out. they retimed to give even space between firings.

    clear as mud right? more detail here:

    http://home.off-road.com/~merls_garage/oddfire.html
     
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  20. Sep 24, 2008
    Walt Couch

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    Considering your location and not knowing how many miles on engine, I would go with SAE10w30.
     
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