Stock replacement leaf springs.

'67 CJ5 w Dauntless V6. My front springs are shot and need to be replaced. Looking at Rock Auto I see spring packs in 5, 7, 9, 10 & 12 leaf denominations. Mine are 9 leaf and it seems easy enough to replace them with what was on it; except that I'd like a little softer ride and had heard the Tuxedo Parks had a softer spring pack. I would guess to drop down to the 7 leaf spring. Does anyone know what springs a V6 TP would have had on the front? Thanks for any feedback.

 

Showing Omix springs on RockAuto. Recent purchasers here have not been happy with them.

I don't think there is any distinction between Tux springs and the rest of the Jeep line - but i have nothing to look up for the earlys. Typically Jeep had a standard and heavy duty suspension option, and that would make a difference. There are also many different leaf thicknesses and number of leaves used over the years, so don't rely on that to connect to height or ride.

If it were for me, and I was looking for return of some height and a soft ride, I'd buy some Skyjackers. They are listed on Summit - http://www.summitracing.com/search/...6+4294925534&SortBy=Default&SortOrder=Default

 

Are there any specs to compare the original height to see just how much mine may have sagged?

 

If the shackles set at 45* angle or less the springs are shot.

I picked up a used pair of front springs yesterday and just posted them "for sale".

 

Thanks for the link. Just don't want to lift it. RockAuto also carries Dayton springs. On the Daytons they list the weight rating. I was thinking that 1500# on front axle would be more than plenty.

I could swear I read an old advertising piece that said the Tux had softer springs for a better ride. I don't care other than would like a less rigid ride. This is not a hard core off-road piece.

 

I don't know anything about the Dayton springs, but they have a web site. Dayton Parts, LLC

I expect they are trying to duplicate those configurations that were available from Jeep that year. They may have some info about this. The parts book probably shows something about that too, but I do not have a parts book that goes back that far. Does the leaf count of anything they offer match what you have now?

Skyjacker J32FS is nominally a 2" to 2.5" lift, which is not a lot. I would guess it's about the same ride height as the original heavy duty option. I suspect that, whatever you do, if the front springs are flat and you replace just the fronts, the nose will be up in the air compared to the rear. Leaf springs just wear out with age, and I would not expect the rears to escape that.

Another possibility is to contact a spring shop like Alcan and tell them what you want. They likely have the listings needed to duplicate your front springs, or a Tux's front springs. I suspect a pair of spings from Alcan is going to cost as much as a full set of Skyjackers (ca $540 plus shipping from Summit).

 

I'd have to find and look at the special parts list for the Tuxedo but, I recall that they advertised, for the Tuxedo, a special progressive rate spring package. Not sure what that entails, exactly.

Paging Donny.........

 

Here is a pic of my front. It's not the best as I'm on the road, but had this on my phone so I just edited it zooming on the front. I don't understand the 45 thing. Are they supposed to be straight up and down?

 

The F134 Tuxedo Park had unique 2-stage springs, 6 leaf front and 5 leaf rear. The lower two (shortest) leaves were virtually flat and thicker than the arched leaves. The vehicle "rode" on the arched soft leaves and "bottomed out" on the flat heavy leaves. The result was a much softer ride in normal road conditions. The original part numbers are 937505 for the fronts, and 937506 for the rear.

I can only make limited comment on the V6 Tuxes. They often had the 2-stage 5 leaf springs on the rear, but seemed to use a 7 leaf conventional spring on the front. I have never seen the 2-stage springs front and rear on a V6 Tux, but that doesn't mean they couldn't.
The F134 and V6 Tuxes could also have either 10 or 12 leaf heavy duty front springs, and 12 or 13 leaf heavy duty rears. I have seen several Tuxes with plows on front with the HD springs.
I'm not aware of any aftermarket replacements for the 2-stage springs. About 30 years ago, I inquired to a spring company in Norfolk, Va (Spring Specialty) and they had specs in their books to duplicate these springs, but I didn't have them made because they were expensive, like double that of the aftermarket pieces. I'd be suprised if that company were still around, but you may check around your area too.
-Donny

 

The progressive rear springs were used on a lot of CJ-5s and CJ-6s. These are the factory springs from my CJ-6. AFAIK every Jeep in this era with standard suspension got the 5-leaf progressive rear springs.



Standard front springs were either 7 or 9 leaves.

 

The rear springs on my Jeep had already been replaced and appear to be a stock ride height. It goes down 2-3 inches in the front whereas the front driveshaft has been hitting the starter/bellhousing. The spring pack on the front and back are both 10 leafs including the main leaf. I contacted a local company about re-arching them but I'm not real keen on that idea. I'm wide open to anything but lifting it because I only want to replace the fronts. Thanks for the feedback.

 

One thing I found out is that you need to make sure you don't soften your ride too much. I went with some softer springs to try them out and found out that it created body roll on cornering, which is the last thing you want on an inherently squirrely vehicle. I looked back through my posts and notes because I thought I had seen something on this and sure enough. Timgr made the statement that because the leaf springs on the older CJ-5's were so far inboard, if they are too soft, the body will roll. I went back to the lifted springs and found that they have softened some with use. The ride is much better. My Dad had the leafs in one of his jeeps re-arched and it made a big improvement without sacrificing anything.

 

I put Rancho 1" lift springs on my TP and it seems fine. It does not pitch and roll, and the ride is ok, as far as a Jeep goes.

 

Body roll is definitely a problem with soft springs and a high COG. Leaf springs, especially on the front, have disappeared from modern cars because they have to be so far inboard to allow for the wheels to turn. Coils are better in this respect.

This is especially noticeable with a steel cab.

Soft tires (low pressure, flexible sidewalls) will help a lot to soak up the jiggly "buckboard" ride that people associate with a Jeep. Good seats help too. Dunno ... I've been driving these cars ever since I could drive, and they just don't seem so rough to me. Somehow I think that you learn a proper seated posture to soak up the bumps that works with the movement, like riding a horse. Not always against the seat back, because the fore-aft pitching will shake you. Maybe it's easier for drivers, who have the steering wheel to adjust their position with ...

 

What about Crown springs ? Theyre made in india I know jeeps are super popular over there and theyre roads are very bumpy so they must be alright

 

AFAIK they do not make 1.75" wide springs for '75 or earlier.

 

theres lots on ebay. doesnt say anything about them being lifted or anything
Crown New Leaf Spring Rear Driver or Passenger Side Jeep CJ5 Willys CJ5A 66-68


Crown Leaf Spring Front New Jeep CJ5 Willys CJ6 CJ5A CJ6A 1967-1968 J0999529

 

If Crown makes their leaf springs like most of their other parts I'd steer clear.

 

Alan did you end up buying anything yet? Im thinking that "soft ride" spring option may have been the notched springs you see on many jeeps. Including mine. which are as flat as can be. i need new springs for the back because iv got a bunch of broken leafs. actually all around the fronts are actually bent up from carrying an 8' plow for 40 years. I like my current height but i doubt any new springs come nearly flat

 

I did get a new set of springs, or I should say two sets. I tried to avoid buying the Omix springs and bought a set from a Jeep vendor that didn't identify them as such. This was after buying and attempting to install another incorrectly listed part from RockAuto. So I have a new set of rears available if anyone wants them.