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Dash Layout

Discussion in 'Early Jeep Restoration and Research' started by JZ, Oct 7, 2006.

  1. Oct 7, 2006
    JZ

    JZ Member

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    Three years after disassebly, I find that I did not take enough pictures. (What a surprise!) As I plug the various empty holes in the dash, I have several questions.

    This is a snap of the original dash. (gauges that appear to be added are pressure and temperature)

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    I have circled the holes that I do not even have a clue about. [far left near edge, and two switches above the gauges...]

    And, is the clutch or throttle on top?
     
  2. Oct 7, 2006
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    The hole to the left of the column looks like it could be for the flashers, the 3 on that side should be lights, wipers and flashers. Don't know what the others are, don't think there stock.
     
  3. Oct 7, 2006
    Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

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  4. Oct 7, 2006
    kiowamtp

    kiowamtp Member

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    Left hole circled looks like the vacuum line from the wipers.
     
  5. Oct 7, 2006
    JZ

    JZ Member

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    Doh
     
  6. Oct 9, 2006
    SIDSCJ

    SIDSCJ Jeep addict

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    Thanks for the pic. Has anyone ever seen a floor with the panel shown in the pic ( pass side under the # 7 & 8 )? I've Never seen one in all the JEEPS I've looked at or parted out. What would it be for? Carryover for access to battery box on M38A1??? Toe cooler option? Gopher sniping gun port???R)
     
  7. Oct 9, 2006
    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

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    It was a carryover from the M88a1. Grrr! Having a real brain cramp today. I used to know what it was for! Nickmil
     
  8. Oct 9, 2006
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    As far as I've been able to find out the jeep in this pic is actually a prototype, it's out of the '55 owners manual. The illustration on the cover sez "Willys" on the side, Not "JEEP"

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    I'm not sure if the floor panel ever made into a production unit or not but Tonk was #378 off the line & he ain't got one.

    The most likely explanation I've heard for the panel is that the early M38A1s had a heater that mounted there. The holes labelled "M1" in this diagram were apparently where the heater hoses went to it.

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    H.
     
  9. Oct 9, 2006
    zed

    zed Iowa- Gateway to Nebraska

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    i just got a stock panel from a 69 5 with original radio. virtually no rust. if you would like me to post images let me know. as far as i can tell the only "extra" opening is one for the amp gauge but it may even be proper?
     
  10. Oct 9, 2006
    jayhawkclint

    jayhawkclint ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    I could really use a shot of a '70 V6 model, if anyone has one. I've got a hole for 1, 2, and 3, but 1 is my ignition and 2 is plugged. To the left of the column I've got 4 holes in a row that currently have lights, choke, wipers, and a plug. No ammeter hole. Would like to know where these are supposed to go, and also need to figure out what to do with the washer fluid push button.
     
  11. Oct 9, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Might check KCJeep's pics in the Picture bank for a stock '69 Clint.
     
  12. Oct 10, 2006
    jayhawkclint

    jayhawkclint ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    Wow. :shock: That is one clean ECJ5. Okay, looking at the pic:

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    I've got the ignition, lights, choke, and wiper in the correct location. I don't have hazards on the dash as they are mounted to my column. Does that leave the wiper fluid down and to the left of the ignition?

    Should I get my own thread? Didn't mean to hijack. Just happened to be asking a really similar question at the same time I was looking for an answer. Sorry.
     
  13. Oct 10, 2006
    John O

    John O Member

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    Geez, I think my headlight switch has been in the wrong position since day 1!
     
  14. Oct 10, 2006
    zed

    zed Iowa- Gateway to Nebraska

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    how can you live with yourself!??!??! :shock: ;) :D
     
  15. Oct 11, 2006
    Ppilotmike

    Ppilotmike old JEEPer

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    yep that is the handle for the windshield washer to the left and low from the ignition switch. The dash on my 70' is also pretty original. I noticed in that pic a large button to fill a hole near the ignition switch. I have a stock cig lighter there. Also my choke is located where the other small filler button is and I have no hole where his choke is located. Mike
     
  16. Oct 13, 2006
    John O

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    Hold on here. Now I'm confused. I went to relocate my headlight switch tonight to match the picture but the switch doesn't fit there. The hole has a different shape. The hole on the lower left of the speedo is the matching shape for the headlight switch.
    I have a 64 dash here as well and the hole is the same.
    Does everybody else have the headlight switch in the upper right?
     
  17. Oct 15, 2006
    JZ

    JZ Member

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    I went to mount my "reproduction" headlight switch where it is shown in the manual. Sure enough the hole is a "D" shape and the switch is perfectly round. It took a little careful grinding to get it to fit, now it is snug.....

    And, I rotated the switch so that the terminals are facing down to prevent moisture, or stray hardware from creating electrical misconduct.
     
  18. Oct 17, 2006
    WYOMIKE

    WYOMIKE Oct 1971 pic

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    Don't know if anybody still needs this info, but here is some pics out of my FSM that show some pretty good dash detail. They dont look that great on the net, but if you down load the pics, they should show up pretty good. Dial ups be aware there pretty good size file, but had to do it this way to get the detail.
    Hope this helps someone:)

    http://www.hdts.vcn.com/DASH/DASH%20CJ-3B.jpg

    http://www.hdts.vcn.com/DASH/DASH%20CJ-5%20DUAL%20LEVER%20.jpg

    http://www.hdts.vcn.com/DASH/DASH%20EARLY%20CJ-5%20SINGLE%20LEVER.jpg

    http://www.hdts.vcn.com/DASH/DASH%20LATE%20CJ-5%20SINGLE%20LEVER.jpg
     
  19. Oct 17, 2006
    John O

    John O Member

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    Still confused here.
    My headlight switch is D shaped. My bottom left hole is D shaped. My top right hole is like a slot for the choke knob.
     
  20. Oct 17, 2006
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    John, obviously your dash panel has been installed upside down. Either re-install it to the correct position or drive standing on your head.


    H.
     
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