Does anyone know what vehicle this fits?

I had reservations, but I bought it. No way can I figure out how it is supposed to fit a CJ-5....and the spare tire bolt spacing is 3 3/16".....

Has anyone seen one before?








Thanks!

Randy

 

guessing
stepside pickup bed mount
16" wheel

 

I was thinking along the same lines....with that stud spacing maybe a 6-lug wheel?

 

possibly
that's what I meant to say, not 16"
6 lug

 

Interesting. I agree - 6-lug wheel. That means it can only apply to '74-on J-10s and Wagons.

Are we sure it's Jeep? Chevys (for example, among others) also used a 6 on 5.5" pattern wheel.

A J-truck with a Thriftside bed seems possible - but I'd think you'd need the long wheelbase (ie the 8' Thriftside bed) to have enough room between the fender and the cab for a tire. My book only shows the short bed (7') in that era. And no side-mounted spare. Maybe it's later, for the Sportside (the one with fiberglass fenders)? Or export?

There was a spare tire mount for the J20, that could mount inside or outside a Fleetside bed. But this looks different from that one.

Post it on IFSJA. http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/index.php Or I'll post it for you, with your permission.

 

Thanks Tim,

Please go ahead and post it. I'll need to get registered on that forum.

It was described as a "takeoff" NOS part that would fit the tailgate of a CJ5 or CJ-2a. Having stood behind my jeep with the mount in hand I just can see no way that it would even bolt up, much less fit or support a tire.

From the pictures it looked as though it might rest on the rear cross member or slide between the cross member and the body and then bolt to the tailgate but it just will not fit.

I'm beginning to think that it's off a farm implement of some type...an early 50's International Farmall 55W hay baler maybe! Looks like Farmall red..

Randy

 

I was going to say a trailer of some sort....

 

People make silly assumptions sometimes...

"This was in Uncle Harold's garage. Harold owned a Jeep. This must be for the Jeep".

 

Well, I have to agree.

But, this does have similarities to other jeep spare tire mounts. I spent some time yesterday looking it over and trying to make it fit my jeep.

The black part has the same mounting bolt pattern as the new replacement mount on my jeep, even though the wheel lug spacing is different. And the mounting holes for the red part are the same distance apart as the diagonal distance between the black bracket's mounting bolt holes. Rather than a tailgate type mount it might be a replacement for the side mount, with the extended section wrapping partially around the rear of the jeep.

The only trouble is rather than solving the potential problem of scraping the original side-mount spare off on a tree, this mount would put the spare an additional 6" away from the body!

I think this is a one-off that someone made. The bends are accurate and square but the welds are not what you'd expect of a factory accessory...

 

From Dave (Tornado230) on IFSJA:

"The carrier portion is for a 4-lug wheel.
Same as on my DJ3A. The other sheet metal does not look familiar, but if it's original, it would belong on something that had a 4-lug wheel."

That's as close to an answer as there was. Lots of guesses, but none of them any better than the guesses here.

 

Come to think of it, that DOES look like a DJ3A carrier. I am thinking the red bracket is for a side mounted spare that clears the sliding doors on the delivery body, but that is just a guess. The non tailgate DJ used the black portion bolted to the center of the rear panel, maybe the extra red stuff was to locate the spare a little farther out to clear the rear seat? If you decide not to use it send me a PM. All my DJ tire mounts are either homemade or missing ....

I reposted your pictures over on the Dispatcher board on Dereks Redmond's site, maybe we will get an answer over there for ya.

 

I did not know that the DJ used a 4 lug wheel....and the clearance for the sliding door makes sense..

This is how I think it might fit. It would be on the opposite side of course but this is the general idea..

 

I wonder if it would work on the back center, with two bolts in the top lip of the tailgate deleted tub and the rest in the back panel? (rotate it 90 degrees counterclockwise from your last pic....) The Dj3A with no tailgate normally used a center mounted spare, and had reenforcements on the inside of the rear panel for the tire carrier to bolt thru. And yes, they were normally a 4 lug wheel from the start in the mid fifties to the end in the mid 60's.. Once the DJ5A came out they went to the same lug pattern as the 4WD jeeps. My current Dj3A has been adapted to the 5 lug pattern by redrilling and new studs.Opens up a world of different wheel options, as the 4 lug pattern is not a popular one.

 

The jeep is over in storage....and it's raining....but i held it up to a box so maybe you can get the idea of how it would mount...

 

PM sent

 

Hmm... definitely not a rear mount bracket. The guys at the DJ3A board should come up with an answer in the next few days... I hope.

 

Just an update. The fellows over at the DJ forum seem to think this was a carrier/bracket for the DJ-5, the one that was right hand drive and had the big sliding door. When opened the door would have hit a normal spare, so the red part of this carrier would have given enough room for the door to open.

This is the only picture that has surfaced so far...

 

JEEP pictured is standard LHD. Must be a 60/40 seat, or he is perched on an ammo can.
If I was going to hit the spare on something, that extended one would sure do the trick on the mail box.

"Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds"
On NDT grave diggers.

 

I'll bet more than a few mailboxes fell victim to that spare tire and mount, and probably a few pedestrians, parked cars etc etc...maybe that's why you never see them installed...