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Can old CJ5 gauges be restored?

Discussion in 'Early Jeep Restoration and Research' started by hardlyable, Jan 10, 2012.

  1. Jan 10, 2012
    hardlyable

    hardlyable New Member

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    Forgive my ignorance, but is it possible to restore an old CJ5 gauge cluster? I recently parted-out a 63 CJ5 that still had the original gauge cluster in it. However, the glass was broken on the gauge and there was some rust pitting on the face of the speedometer, temp and fuel gauge and on the housing. All of the needles and cables are there.

    I would love to take the aftermarket gauge out of my 62 and replace it with the stock gauge. If it is possible to restore old gauges to working order, can anyone recommend somebody who does this type of restoration? What kind of dollar range should I expect for this type of work? Or is this the type of thing that could be undertaken by an inept mechanic with shoddy skills (Me)?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Jan 10, 2012
    SFaulken

    SFaulken Active Member

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    I've used these guys before for some street rod stuff. Not cheap, but if you want original, and you want it to work, they've never let me down.

    http://www.autoinstruments.com/
     
  3. Jan 10, 2012
    aallison

    aallison 74 cj6, 76 cj5. Has anyone seen my screwdriver?

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    Yes, it can be restored.
     
  4. Jan 11, 2012
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    It is probably more cost effective to contact Carl Walck and see if he still has some NOS speedometer clusters for your rig that will be identical to the original.
     
  5. Jan 11, 2012
    Heimbig2

    Heimbig2 Member

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  6. Jan 12, 2012
    hardlyable

    hardlyable New Member

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    Wow, thanks for that link! I don't know how I hadn't run across the DeBella website before now. I can already hear a draining sound coming from my wallet...so many things I think I need all in one place.

    Joe
     
  7. Jan 14, 2012
    LXXIV_CJ

    LXXIV_CJ Member

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    ^^ This!!! I wish I'd never clicked that link. :D
     
  8. Jan 15, 2012
    jayhawkclint

    jayhawkclint ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    OMG that is a dangerous link. I'll take one of everything, please!
     
  9. Jan 21, 2012
    Gwillys

    Gwillys 1953 CJ3B

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    Once the NOS parts are gone they are gone. Thats my feeling. Collect them and cherish them as they are, use the repro parts and improve them if you need to.
     
  10. Jan 21, 2012
    Rondog

    Rondog just hangin' out

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    DeBella's is one of those places I'd like to visit in person.
     
  11. Jan 24, 2012
    RyanBailey

    RyanBailey New Member

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    You never know what you are going to find on ebay too...

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/19062883821...AX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1156

    I just snagged this for my '55 CJ5. All I needed was the needle but anyone who knows anything about the 1-10 gage clusters for a '55 can see the "Awesomeness" in what I found. To-bad the "silver face" didn't say Willys :( but I can still use my "silver face" and steal the needle off this.
     
  12. Jan 24, 2012
    hardlyable

    hardlyable New Member

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    Nice find!
     
  13. Aug 5, 2012
    JFab

    JFab New Member

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    Can you offer more info on this? Although my Jeep has been in my family since '68, my uncle "can't remember" if he put this in or if was original. Ha, getting old sucks. I'm nearly 40, though, so I'd best watch out. Lol...

    My CJ5 is a '56... did some get Aero speedos from the factory? Here is my dash shot:

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LP9mTn-paz0/TI6imsIQRCI/AAAAAAAAAFY/ygoBuMkrJAQ/s1600/014.JPG

    You can see my needle fell off too. If its OEM, I'd like to fix it. If not, I'll likely replace it, though the Jeep has been converted to 12V. Any concerns I should have?

    I searched in the archives, but didn't come up with much.

    JFab
    '56 Willys Jeep CJ5... Resto-mod write up at http://jfab.com

     
  14. Aug 11, 2012
    1955CJ-5

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    Jfab,

    Here is a picture of the speedo in my '55. This jeep has been in the family since '62, and the speedometer has not been changed in that time. I think that it's a fair bet that it's original.

    I checked your web site and enjoyed looking at your restoration progress pictures. It's interesting how some little things are different on your '56...

    Randy


    [​IMG]
     
  15. Aug 15, 2012
    JFab

    JFab New Member

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    Well, thank you for the reply, Randy! That's good news and bad news. I was hoping that was the original gauge, as that was the one that I grew up looking at, and I really love it. That's the good news. The bad news is that I will now have to figure out how to fix mine or find someone who can... LOL.

    Well, thank you, fine sir. :) I have made progress that isn't shown on there. I will have to get on that and get some of these pictures uploaded. Been busy being a dad lately, and whenever I can find a moment, I wrench (or wire-wheel) rather than work on the website updates.

    Do you have some other dash pics up of yours? I'd sure like to see it, especially if it's more complete than mine. Though mine has been in the family since 1968, it was a farm Jeep from 1974 until about 1998 when I bought it from my grandfather, so lots of changes have undoubtedly been made.
     
  16. Aug 15, 2012
    1955CJ-5

    1955CJ-5 Member

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    Here you go....just as plain as can be....used to be President Red, now it's Kermit green....but it will be red again very soon...

    [​IMG]


    Now, if you (or anyone ) happen to have a picture of the right rear of your jeep where the spare tire mount goes, I'd appreciate it! On my jeep the holes were filled and so I'm not real sure where to start drilling for the new mount..!

    Randy
     
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  17. Aug 19, 2012
    JFab

    JFab New Member

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    Ugh, don't ask for a picture of mine -- it's a mess back there. I think at some point, the spare was ripped off, and there's a chunk of wood under some bondo and... well, you get the idea.

    And, thanks for the photo of your dash -- very clean!

    JFab
     
  18. Aug 20, 2012
    1955CJ-5

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    Well mine has a piece of 1/8" sheet iron back there and lots of bondo to hide the sins....The good thing is the sheet iron should be able to deal with the weight of the spare!

    Have you found someone to repair your speedometer? Mine works fine but the gasket/O-ring between the frame and glass is missing and the glass is kinda loose, and it's getting dusty in there...

    Randy
     
  19. Sep 9, 2012
    JFab

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    I haven't found anyone to repair mine yet, but to be honest, I haven't been looking. Been working on some of the major mechanicals for the time being, and the gauge repair will be later on down the line. However, if find someone who does good work, please do pass on their contact info, because sooner or later, I'm going to have to get it done.
     
  20. Sep 14, 2012
    PeteL

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    I suggest looking in Hemmings Motor News. Advertisers there can do anything you want in parts rebuilding, at a price.
     
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