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Canadian CJ5

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by digitaljjd, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. Jul 22, 2009
    digitaljjd

    digitaljjd New Member

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    Hello all, new to the forum, and I need a little help. I have a 1966? Canadian built CJ5 4x4 with a V6- 225 under my care. VIN Number 8305 C16 223XXX. It's got a PTO winch and the all range overdrive. It also has a clutch pedal that is now sticking all the way down. It has been sitting for sometime. Any ideas? Can I disassemble and possibly clean it or does it have to be rebuilt? FYI, it's not the return spring, it still works by making a makeshift stirrup to hook your foot into that's attached to the pedal. It feels "gummed up". Is this common? Maybe a flywheel issue? Thanks for any input. I've always steered clear of clutches, but you gotta' start somewhere. [​IMG]
     
  2. Jul 22, 2009
    timgr

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    Welcome from Boston!

    Hard to say much about your clutch with what information you provide. It will help to post some pictures. The stirrup thing and gumminess does not sound like factory equipment. The factory setup should be mechanical linkage, or a very short cable, as I recall.

    The service manual will help you a lot. http://thejeep.com/shop/TECH+MANUAL...ech+Manual+CJ3B+CJ5%252F6+12V+4+%2526V-6.html This is one place to get it, and there are many others.

    Good looking Jeep - very complete, with some desirable accessories.

    Canadian - are you in Canada? It will help to put your location in your sig or in your header. Click the "User CP" button.
     
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  3. Jul 22, 2009
    timgr

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    I think I understand what you mean about the stirrup. You have to pull up on the pedal to make it return.

    There should be a grease fitting on the cross shaft for the pedals. Try greasing the cross shaft liberally to see if it will loosen up.
     
  4. Jul 22, 2009
    Walt Couch

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    The throw-out bearing slides on the main drive gear bearing retainer and it is possible that it too is rusted (gummed) up to where it wont slide properly. With the clutch pedal depressed, you can spray some lube on the retainer shaft. (through the clutch fork hole in B-housing)
     
  5. Jul 22, 2009
    rusty

    rusty Well-Known Member

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    Welcome from Va.
     
  6. Jul 22, 2009
    groomer_guy

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    Welcome from New England. Sorry I can't help but nice JEEP.
     
  7. Jul 22, 2009
    Walt Couch

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    Welcome from SoWeGa. How in the world did you find a Canadian Jeep in Georgia?
     
  8. Jul 22, 2009
    digitaljjd

    digitaljjd New Member

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    Thanks for the advice, but I did try that already. :cry: Also, I guess I should rephrase the subject as Canadian built CJ5. It's actually in the US. It's not actually mine just yet, but I'll keep my fingers crossed. It actually belongs to a friend of my father's, who has left it up here for the past 4-5yrs. I've been keeping it up. It was brought down from Oregon where it was used as a mountain rescue vehicle and later for the Shriners by his grandfather, hence the red, white and blue paint job. Pretty cool jeep, but it needs a lot of work. I just hoped I could free the clutch up. It may be something major like the throwout bearing or rusted pressure plate. Who knows. I tried the jack up the rear wheels and run it up to speed, depress the clutch and slam on the brakes trick with no luck, hoping it might be a rusted clutch/drive plate deal. No luck.
     
  9. Jul 22, 2009
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    No differently than I found a Canadian Jeep in New Mexico I'd guess...
     
  10. Jul 22, 2009
    digitaljjd

    digitaljjd New Member

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    I'm going to try this tomorrow and I'll let ya' know.
    Thanks. I have a feeling it's going to need to be rebuilt, but before I go down that road, I need to make sure it's mine first. It's still up in the air as the guy is going through a divorce. I'll keep my finger's crossed.
     
  11. Jul 22, 2009
    47willys

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    My 67 was built in Canada and has the 225. I have a usable clutch torque tube if you need it complete. I replaced mine with the AA chain drive upgrade.
     
  12. Jul 22, 2009
    aallison

    aallison 74 cj6, 76 cj5. Has anyone seen my screwdriver?

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    Way cool Jeep. At first I thought it was one of the Super Jeeps with that paint job.

    Shriner huh? My local Shrine Association has a Jeep unit. It would fit right in.......

    Welcome to Ecj5.
     
  13. Jul 24, 2009
    digitaljjd

    digitaljjd New Member

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    Thanks for all the welcomes and all the advice! It seems that the clutch/brake assembly was so caked on with old dried up grease that it was keeping the clutch pedal stuck down because the brake/pedal/shaft were both locked/stuck together. I hadn't realized that the brake pedal was slightly being depressed as the clutch was pushed down, which lead me to scrape and degrease the whole assembly before I decided to tear anything apart. I had greased the fittings but I recalled one didn't really take any grease. After the clean-up I pulled all of the fittings and low and behold one of them looked like it was packed with baked clay and was completely blocked off. The brake fitting side? Once it was cleaned, sprayed, broken free, and greased, I got my clutch back! Sweet!
     
  14. Jul 24, 2009
    Tom in RI

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    Thats excellent! Welcome from Rhode Island. As you work through the '66 you might find some things that don't match up with the reproduction manuals (which are reprints of the later TSM, maybe '70 or around that year). So some things like brakelines, transmission mounts and fuel lines in your 66 might not match up to what the manual says. Its all easily fixed though and things that don't match the newer manual usually show up in the older manuals for the 4 cylinder CJ5.

    Those are very cool vintage slot mag wheels too! Somebody definately wanted to keep up with the cool times. Was that paint job woriginally done for the 1976 bicentenial?
     
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