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'63 CJ5 Gas Tank Relocation Info

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by mole2000, Nov 19, 2007.

  1. Nov 19, 2007
    mole2000

    mole2000 New Member

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    Hi Everybody-

    The tank under the seat has always been trouble and I'd like to install a new tank between the rear frame rails as it was on later models and make the fill point on the passenger rear quarter panel.

    I have seen some posts indicating this is possible, but I am wondering about which tanks will fit my 63 and the modifications (attachment methods, cutting, etc) that will be needed to make it work.

    Any experience with the process on an early 60s CJ?

    Thanks,
    Tim
     
  2. Nov 19, 2007
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    For me, personally, I don't see a problem with the under seat tank. I installed a poly tank, put in a return, and have no problems..... JME...
     
  4. Nov 19, 2007
    mole2000

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    It seems like the underseat tanks can never seal off all the smell/small leaks. I hope to accomplish a few things: get rid of smell, increase capacity and improve reliability of fuel system.

    Thanks again! This site is a fantastic resource.
     
  5. Nov 20, 2007
    grannyscj

    grannyscj Headed to the Yukon

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    As far as the tanks themselves go, they are identical (15 gals). The differences come in the fill and vent port sizes. '71-'75 tanks were meant to be affixed to the frame, later ones suspended w/ straps. However, as I said before they are identical and there's plenty of room outside the seal weld to drill mounting holes if you wish to attach to the frame (how I did it). The real deal is finding accessory parts (filler surround, filler, hoses) and they are N/A for '71-'75 (well maybe hoses). Best bet is to go w/ a '76 up tank so you can find all the pieces. Mine is a '76-'83 style tank mounted to the frame w/ the filler on the passenger side rear.:v6:
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    Here is the filler(still looking for some special bolts)http://www.earlycj5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49275
     
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  6. Nov 20, 2007
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Really? Mine's a '71-'75 replacement, I don't understand how it would be affixed to the frame. There's no tabs.

    It's suspended in a skid plate.
     
  7. Nov 20, 2007
    Boyink

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    The '78 and up also use the skidplate as mount, but do have a strap that goes over the top of the tank to secure it into the skidplate.
     
  8. Nov 20, 2007
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Yeah, that's what I did.

    My old tank was in the skid plate with no straps over the top to secure it.
     
  9. Nov 20, 2007
    junkfood

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    It looks like it's a non-issue but, isn't the later CJ rear frame wider at the rear than the ECJ frame? Just wondering if it caused a problem with the tank being wider.
    Keith
     
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    Boyink

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    ...didja look at the link I posted? ;)
     
  11. Nov 20, 2007
    spud

    spud Nope..it's not finished!

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    My '75 has 3 points of contact with the frame. 1 in the front center of the tank, and 1 on each rear corner of the tank that are mounted in rubber.
     
  12. Nov 20, 2007
    sparky

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    That's interesting.

    I assumed mine was a stock tank since it's a '71.

    It didn't have anything like that.

    The replacement ('70-'75) doesn't either.
     
  13. Nov 20, 2007
    Hansh

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    junkfood

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    Yes, Nice write-up. But it didn't say for sure so I asked. I've been thinking about doing something like that on my 2a. It should have about the same dimensions as the ECJ frame, or close.
    Keith
     
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  15. Nov 21, 2007
    grannyscj

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    All of the current replacement tanks are made by Crown Manufacturing http://www.crownautomotive.net/ and the shells are all the same (if same size). They come w/ two holes in place forward and none aft. However, there's plenty of room outside the crimp weld aft to drill holes for mounting. Mine is mounted directly to the frame aft and w/ fabbed hangers forward (see first post). You could certainly have a NOS or a repop from a defunct supplier, but AFAIK Crown is the only company making repop tanks in the US. I spoke w/ them about the particulars when I was ordering mine.:v6:
     
  16. Nov 21, 2007
    fheadcj6

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    Ah now it's clearer to me thanks Mike. i was thinking how is that going to fit my CJ6 has a brace running through the middle of where the tank fits.
    i am planning on keeping the underseat tank and adding a custom auxiliary tank fitting in gap between the brace and the crossmember.
     
  17. Nov 21, 2007
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    Just some food for thought - I had a custom tank made from 1/8" steel and shipped from FL to CO that ran $220 and $80 Shipping.
     
  18. Nov 21, 2007
    sparky

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    http://www.mtscompany.com/index.htm

    Free shipping lower 48, great guy to talk to.

    Reasonable price on tanks. But you need the '78 and up skid plate. I now see that mine was a '78 and up, I didn't pay attention since it directly matched what I had. Dunno why I would've thought it was stock. Only thing stock '71 that I know of is the frame and now the rear axle I put in.
     
  19. Nov 22, 2007
    Eric B.

    Eric B. Confused???

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    I had to do the rear tank conversion on mine the underseat tank had 6 gallons in it for 10 years or so, it was nice varnish when emptied. Plus I didn't want it inside anymore with having to switch out the original bench seat from rusted broken springs, and shredded seat covering. WIll work on some pics of how mine when in. I used the entire rear cross member as support using two bolts at the outer corners and an "L" bracket on the mounting tab location of the front to hold it in place.
     
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