Throw Out Bearing ....and more!

I have worked on this Jeep since Feb....and things were moving forward ......the engine working real good etc.
Then.....after taking it for the last ride before attempting my first king pin bearings and wheel bearings....the clutch cable broke.

So I was working on that when the clutch fork fell out. The spring that clips it in broke on one side.
Then, I put it back in, and though it was attached when I started the vehicle....
The motor ran real nice, until I heard a clang, as the clutch fork was sucked into the hole, .
Now. I got the fork out, and the throw out bearing feels like it is in pieces.
So....I am now ready to pull out the transmission and see what I find in there.
My several questions.....
When I take the shifter off in order to remove the tranny.....will sprigs and small parts fly out......

Since the clutch previously seemed not to be bad....will the above have ruined it....or what might I be looking at to get back to where I started.....
I'm sure there are more questions...so your experience here would be greatly appreciated...as this is all my fist time at any of this.
Thanks

 

Re: Throw Out Bearing ....and moir.!

no small parts to fall out, just two shift forks that shouldn't go anywhere.

 

Got it out, no problem...and no springs etc.....Great.and Thanks......
Any one have any idea were is the best place to get a clutch fork for 1971 CJ5 225 V6

 

try here
http://www.the-jeep-guy.com/Transmission.htm

 

i believe that northstar willys has them to. http://www.northstarwillys.com

 

Thanks for the parts places.....Krage's seems to have lots of photos.....since I'm still learning that seems good.
I will be attempting the trans removal and replacement without a transmission jack......
Any ideas.... I own a 20ton bottle jack....which seems not to be the correct tool.
Also, should I remove the transmission from the bell housing, or leave it together until I get a look inside there.....?
Also should I remove the skid plate....seems like it could stay on there for this clutch stuff.....?
Thanks in advance for your help.

 

It may not be worth buying a trans jack, however, an inexpensive floor jack is something you can use a lot on your rig.

I used a floor jack to lower my tranny but I bolted a piece of 2 x 12 on it about 16" long. Worked ok & way less $ than a trans jack.

Also, you can run a rachet strap or rope down from above the floor to help keep things under control.

I didn't do these things the first time & ended up busting an ear off of the t-case.

Skid plate removal - it's up to you. I always take mine off so I can see things better.

 

Thanks for the advice....I'll do the floor jack thing. I need one more then a tranny jack and they are so much less money.
I also don't need to break anything, as all this Jeep stuff just sort of creeped up on me.....now I'm hooked and well,.
My wife keeps recoiling from it.....and I don't know what to say to her.....!

I got the stick removed, the front propeller shaft, the transfer case stick.....so I'm working on it a bit at a time.

 

I had a buddy help steady the whole thing, T case and all. WE let it land on a milk crate, then slid it out on that.
Buy 2 longer bellhousing bolts and cut off the heads then put a screwdriver slot in the head.
Use these as dowles in the block to mount the whole mess back in and then back them out with a big screwdriver.

 

A note of caution.
If your clutch is is in good condition now, it won't be if you pull the transmission
without supporting it and pulling it straight back until the splines on the trany are free from the clutch. Then you can "drop" it. Same goes for reinstall. Get the trany up straight and true, or loosen the pressure plate until the clutch can move. One way the clutch disk stays aligned with the pilot bushing but the disk is more easily damaged by maligned transmission movement, the other way the trany gets installed then the pressure plate needs to be tightened to torque specs without much knuckle room.
As I said, having had a pulsing clutch before, just a caution.
Its all good, some things are better, having others with bloody knuckles is best if you learn from their attempts at self education.

 

Thanks for the great and less expensive idea. I'm doing this in a dirt driveway, so the wheels on whatever jack might be a problem....I'm also doing it alone, ....so.....I figure I might end up suspending it from the top somehow.
This is a case that the removable floor seems like a handy thing.

With the bolts, are you saying the bolts that go into the bell housing from the tranny, or from the bell housing to the engine block.

Or,....do I need to unbolt the tranny from the bell housing, or can I just
remove the transfer case, tranny, and bell housing all together .......?

Thanks to everyone for your replies here.

 

Also Thanks for that.....That's also why I'm asking.....had I asked before messing with the fork and cable.....I might not have needed to remove the transmission ta da ta da.

 

To get hte jack to roll in the dirt get a sheet of plywood to put under the jeep, aso helps with droped small parts.

Andrew

 

Another thought. By yourself the Trany and Transfer case will weigh close to 300 pounds. Darn heavy. ( well maybe 200) +-/-+
I don't know how well the engine will stay balanced as you remove the Trany.
More weight moving around. Look into getting it all set up and move the jeep away from the trany-tnsfr case-etc, loosen it then push the jeep, even your toes will be safe.
Just be careful.
The mass you are attempting to move can be more, than can easily be handled. Work out with weights? if so I'll bet the area under that jeep smells like a locker room but there isn't enough room to swing a cat, and no one will be spotting you.
Another issue with a trany/t-case setup is the center of gravity is going to be difficult to figure. Personally I'd vote for divorcing the parts. They will still be heavy but an awful lot safer to single handedly move.