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Brake conversion question

Discussion in 'Flat Fender Tech' started by Andy4802, Apr 7, 2007.

  1. Apr 7, 2007
    Andy4802

    Andy4802 Canadian Jeep junkie

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    trying to get all my parts together now for my 11" drum conversion, to be done within the next couple weeks. I've got everything i need for drums and backing plates and such, but i decided today that i want to get rid of the frame mounted master and go to a swinging pedal setup from Wilwood.
    My question is, do you guys think i should go for the dual master setup or will a single master kit be ok? I know that there are a lot of "salvage" options from other jeeps (xj's etc.), but i've done some research and am really sold on the Wilwood stuff. Plus i want to start with all new parts.
    I am not converting my clutch linkage... just the MC and brake pedal. Thanks for any advice :)
     
  2. Apr 7, 2007
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

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    For my piece of mind I would go dual so when something goes wrong you are not as likely to loose all brakes.
     
  3. Apr 7, 2007
    Andy4802

    Andy4802 Canadian Jeep junkie

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    same bore cylinder? or maybe 1" for front and 7/8 for rear?
     
  4. Apr 7, 2007
    windyhill

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    One pedal through the floor and one swinging? Why not just put duel res. on frame? My 2 cents. I like the floor pedals! To each his own. Good luck.
     
  5. Apr 7, 2007
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I ran Dutch that way for years - converted the brakes to hanging CJ7 pedals but didn't do the clutch as it worked fine as-is.

    I like having the MC up where you can fill it easier.
     
  6. Apr 7, 2007
    Andy4802

    Andy4802 Canadian Jeep junkie

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    yup, my clutch is dialed in perfectly and im not messing with it. I'm not big on the frame mounted master though.
     
  7. Apr 7, 2007
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    Lotsa carving/fabricating/strengthening to go with hanging pedals in a flatty, that's why I decided to stick with the floor pedals. That and the fact that I've never seen a hanging pedal conversion in a low-hooded Jeep that I was happy with, they always seemed to look like a hack-job IMHO.

    Truthfully, once you get the brakes all dialed in and bled you really don't need to get unto the MC but about once a year to check the fluid level, so for me it's really no biggie. YMMV. ;)
     
  8. Apr 8, 2007
    tommy b

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    Yep. And easier to bleed the brake system if the M/C is the highest point in it. (doesn't tend to trap air in high points in the lines)

    tommy b
     
  9. Apr 9, 2007
    kbtriumph

    kbtriumph New Member

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    I used the hanging pedal and master from a '67 Ford F100 when I went to 11" brakes. I had to reinforce the firewall and it works great and looks like it belongs there.

    I left the clutch and used a chain linkage from Advanced Adaptors. This setup has worked great on my GPW.
     
  10. Apr 10, 2007
    Grt_Ape

    Grt_Ape New Member

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    My 2A's P.O. installed the Advance Adapters hydraulic clutch linkage conversion that included the dual swing pedals, dual master cylinder, and slave cylinder kit. He also installed 11" drums off of an early 70's F-100. Seems to work just fine, as long as they stay dry :) . Advance Adapters states on the website that "These components cannot be used on vehicles with disc brakes." So if you plan to go that route in the future, you should probably look elsewhere.

    The MC is technically a dual setup, but it is turned 90 degrees with one port used for the brakes and one for the clutch. There is not much of a divider between the circuits, so I could potentially lose both the clutch and all four brakes if something goes wrong. This is more so a concern because I am missing pretty much all the parts for an e-brake.

    If I had to do it from scratch I would have gon with a dual MC for the brakes and a seperate clutch MC. Or simply have stayed with the mechanical clutch linkage.

    My $.02,

    Chris
     
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