Beth, thanks for the offer, but I already bought a set of tires, mounted them on the 416 rims and put them on the trailer. today I backed my truck in to hook it up and... the tractor sitting next to it was just a little too close to the post on the other side, wouldn't fit out.,....:? I jumped up into the seat on the old oliver 1650 and pressed the start button only to recieve a nice weak clicking noise from the solenoid derned 6v battery too... no gonna jumpee hooked the trusty dodge decoder to the drawbar on the oliver and put the coal to it, and proceded to nearly burry the decoder:evil: searched about 2 acres of dismantled tractors (really) and found a nice long piece of pipe.... couldn't budge it. the ground around there is all sand and really soft, the tractor moved about a foot when I yanked on it with the truck, I needed about 8 feet. so now I'm waiting on the farmer to get around to jump starting the tractor to free my 416 so I can drag it home. I now know: an oliver 1650 is a reasonably heavy object. the towing limitations of my dodge decoder in sand I could probably tip a 416 on it's side by myself... if I wern't in soil so soft that I kept slipping out from under it. R) maybe tomorrow Beth, what's the story with your Mutt?