416 info needed... bad!

I need to know the bolt patern on a 416 trailer?
will CJ rims fit on one?
were they originally 12v or 24v lighting?

anyone near by got a set of 416 rims with usable tires I could borrow for a week or so?

 

Bolt pattern is 5 on 5 1/2 same as CJ. Center hole size might be different as I'm pretty sure they are hub-centric rather than lug-centric. Lug nuts are different as they are not tapered.

Lights were originally 24V. Can directly replace with 12V bulbs. Wiring is different than normal trailers as it doesn't use the frame for ground.

I've got a couple of spare rims, but I'm a little far away....

 

thanks for the info Mark, may be easier to go buy tires and be done with it.

 

that's what I thought, looking at them. should be able to change lug nuts and the cj wheels should bolt up.

 

I think the CJ wheels will work, although they'll stick our further as they don't have the same offset as the original trailer wheels. IIRC, the CJ lug nuts won't work as they are a different thread diameter and pitch than the M416 ones, might have to buy new lug nuts. If you try to mount a CJ wheel with the M416 lug nuts, it's hard to get it centered just right (lug vs hub centric). If your not going fast or a only short distance it may be fine. This is all from memory, which aint what it used to be.

 

What is the best place to buy a set of 700-16 NDTs?

 

I took the stock wheels off m y 416 and put old CJ 16x4.5 wheels on it. Wheel fits no problem but did have to get new lug nuts as the thread is different. The new lug nuts seem to be slightly to small in diameter in relation to the lug nut hole in the wheel. I'm not sure if this is because the lug nuts holes are worn a little oversize or what. It's almost bad enough where I was afraid the lug nut would bottom out on the hub. Maybe you can find a bigger diameter lug nut with the proper thread, but I couldn't. In any event, it works fine but I take mostly short trips with it. Longer trips I'd plan to make scheduled stops to give it a look over.

Worst case scenario, I would knock out the old lugs, drill out the hub as needed, and install CJ lug studs.

Or if the spindle/wheel bearings are the same, just swap in a complete CJ hub....hmmm I do have a couple spare hubs....

 

And I think I may have a spare set of hubs in my spares box...Hmmm

 

I will give you a couple of 700-16 tires only if you come and get those axles..

 

I believe this is what you need right? I have been looking into changing out my hubs to properly accommodate CJ wheels.

http://www.southwestwheel.com/store/p-244-l0555lb1e.aspx

 

Hope I'm not too late... I bought mine thru Coker Tire along with tubes and had a local Finks mount them for me. Randy I've got a pair of wagon wheels you could have if you just are looking for a "cheap" way to get it rolling... PM me if interested, I'm off until Saturday!

 

Chris, thanks for the offer and the info. I bought a pair of NDTs from Universal tire. I got them mounted and hope to drag it to the house within the next few days.

 

Cool, have fun with it! My BT3-C is spread out all over my shop...STILL!

 

I'll post a pic of this fine piece of military history, soon as I get my tetnus shot up to date

 

The safest way might be to drag it home on top of another street worthy trailer.
On mine the springs were so rusted they had grown to twice the size, wiring was shot etc.

 

Pete says no, not well. You would need to replace the studs or hub. We have wheels and tires you could borrow. Hey, I could send you a whole jeep (another frustrating story) right now with the Mutt wheels.

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