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Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by neptco19, Jan 11, 2007.

  1. Jan 11, 2007
    neptco19

    neptco19 That guy....

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    What size tires you running? Do they rub? Stock yj springs or something else? Do they have more up or down travel or are they about even? Thanks :beer:
     
  2. Jan 12, 2007
    DanStew

    DanStew Preowned Merkin salesman Staff Member

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    When i had stock axles and a spring over with stock YJ springs, i fit my 34s with ease, and had room to boot. I did rub on th efront springs at full lock. When i went to the RE 1.5 lift springs the 34s look tiny, if i ever get the boggers on they may look better, but i am waiting for them to sag since they are too tall for me now. But with teh waggie axles i havent experinced any rub, but with the boggers i kind of expect some rub since i had to outboard the front springs, so now the springs are as close to the tires as stock axles would be.
     
  3. Jan 12, 2007
    CJ-X

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    I have incredible wheel travel, but I also have scout/wrangler width axles. I also kept my springs under the frame, which really increases articulation. My front springs are a wrangler pack that I added a leaf to, and my rear springs are off the front of a CJ-7 (same width) and I added a spring to it. My rears have a little more arch and height. Longer shackles also greatly increased articulation. I have a lot of up and down travel, not sure of the ratio. Both my front and rears come up and hit the fenders with 35's.

    I would not recommend stock wrangler springs unless you had some extra springs laying around to increase their beef a little. SOA is really hard on springs. I might have tried 1.5" wrangler springs.

    To do it all right it is a lot of work, I am extremely happy with my result as my jeep is more stable now than it was before. The steering is also better than it was before. However, I do not think It would have been a good mod had I not lengthened the wheelbase and widened the axles; or at least widened the axles.
     
  4. Jan 12, 2007
    neptco19

    neptco19 That guy....

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    Depends on how heavy the vehicle is. If they are on a heavier than normal YJ they will compress more at ride height, and have more droop resulting.

    I understand the axle stuff, I was just trying to find out what tire sizes seem to work well...reason being that a 2.5" lift on these CJ can run 34s. So does that mean a 5" lift can 38s? Not that I'm planning on it, but I was wanting to see what size tire filled the wheel well out nicely and fit without much/any scrubbing.

    Did the pass spring not interfere with the front diff, keeping the springs at the stock frame width?
     
  5. Jan 13, 2007
    DanStew

    DanStew Preowned Merkin salesman Staff Member

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    jason with my lift right now i can easily slap on 38s or even 40s i have sick amount of room, almost borderlines on funny looking. i am not sure what i can fit when the springs sag.
     
  6. Jan 13, 2007
    CJ-X

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    Jason,
    I swapped in a high pinion 44 from a ford pick-up. I moved the pumpkin to the passenger side, and in the process made both axle shafts the exact length I wanted, keeping the springs under the frame rails. Most people only want to cut down one side when they swap to save money. It only cost about $85.00 to cut down an axle shaft. So I think it was worth it.
     
  7. Jan 13, 2007
    neptco19

    neptco19 That guy....

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    Ohhh I guess when I read you had scout width axles I assumed you had scout axles :oops: Did you re-tube the housing or have someone do it?
     
  8. Jan 13, 2007
    CJ-X

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    Rear scout only. On the front (Ford) I did not pull the tubes, I just removed both knuckles, then cut the long side down to the correct short length, and welded a knuckle back on, setting the correct caster. On the side that needed to be lengthened, I had enough of the piece that I cut off from the other side to add to it to get the correct length. I bought a section of heavy tubing that I could press (hammer) into the ID of the original tube about 6 inches and then left about 6 inches sticking out to press (hammer) the added section onto. I left a small gap between them so when I welded the splice together I was welding all 3 pieces. It was a super strong splice, you can not tell where I did it, and I didn't risk damage to my pumpkins by pulling the tubes out. :) I used a 3/4 ton HP-44. I am not sure you can do it with a 1/2 ton 44 because the tubes are smaller and there may not be enough room inside for the splice tubing.
    It was a really simple modification to the axle housing, but you do need a decent welder. The high pinion really gets that front driveshaft up and out of the way!
     
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