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Painless Harness arrived today!

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by wreckless123, Aug 26, 2006.

  1. Aug 26, 2006
    wreckless123

    wreckless123 Member

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    Well the Painless harness arrived today so I went out and started prepping the Jeep. I pulled the carpet out, pulled the trans cover so I can get to the neutral safey wiring and started pulling things off that I will not be including, like the heater box and fan. I am terrified! I guess I will not know until I get into it. I am sure I will be posting many questions as I go. Maybe with your help I can get through this! R) Dont worry you will be hearing more from this wireing job soon! Oh, dont worry I am sure I will have tons of pictures included in my questions. I know how you guys love pictures..:)

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  2. Aug 26, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    I'm wrapping up the EZ-Wire mini 12, just need to hook up dash lights and fuel gauge.

    Easy as the name implies.
     
  3. Aug 26, 2006
    BlueFlu

    BlueFlu past owner of some ecj5's

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    No heater? :shock:
     
  4. Aug 26, 2006
    neptco19

    neptco19 That guy....

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    Its not too difficult. Just take your time and make sure all your connections are good and solid. If you have the time solder the ones you can and they will be trouble free for many years. Also make sure you use quality connectors.
     
  5. Aug 26, 2006
    Rampdog

    Rampdog knuckle buster

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    Once you get started, you will find it to be really easy, and you'll understand your electrical system much better. I'm glad I did mine this way.
     
  6. Aug 26, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    I just used quality connectors. Used to solder a lot more connections. Now I buy the heat shrink connectors and just use them.

    Left a bit of extra wire as I could so I was sure that if I needed to make repairs I could.
     
  7. Aug 27, 2006
    wreckless123

    wreckless123 Member

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    Whats a good place to get some good quality connectors and crimping tool? I keep reading that the $3 crimping tool I have causes overcrimping, where do I get a good one?
     
  8. Aug 27, 2006
    dauntless_powered

    dauntless_powered SUB COB 2024 Sponsor

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    any good hardware store or electrical supply place will have just what you needs. I am all about the heatshrink connector like sparky said. I did this and it made everything so worry free. I wish i was coming your way sooner, I have an extra crimping tool somewhere around here that I got from the base.
     
  9. Aug 27, 2006
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    Klein crimpers like these:[​IMG] they are model #1005, they are some of the best made. They are available where I live at the local Ace hardware. Channel lock makes a pair that are almost a carbon copy that are also good. Klein also make good strippers [​IMG]
    model #11045, can you tell I like Klein tools?
     
  10. Aug 27, 2006
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    interesting
    maybe the b/u light switch ?
     
  11. Aug 27, 2006
    toolbox

    toolbox If you get bored, I've got the projects.

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    I've got the same crimper, and it works great. As for a stripper...GET AN AUTOMATIC WIRE STRIPPER!!!!!!!!! You will wonder how you survived this long without one. Even a $15 one will make life with wires so much easier. You just put the wire in and squeeze the handle. Done. Any size wire up to around 12 gauge. No adjusting, no trying to pick the right part of the stripper to use...once you use one, you can never go back. Seriously :) . I've been using them for about five years now, and you couldn't pay me enough to go back to a manual one.
     
  12. Aug 27, 2006
    neptco19

    neptco19 That guy....

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    X2 They also come in handy when your trying to strip a wire thats in a tight place that you cant get one of the line the wire up in the correct slot and pull strippers into.
     
  13. Aug 27, 2006
    wreckless123

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    Thanks guys, especially for the pics of the crimpers that gives me a visual of what to look for. Heres a :beer: for Mcruff!

    I have never been afraid to tackle anything mechanical on a car, truck or Jeep but always been terrified of electrical..

    Here are my first two questions.. First, I assume this is some sort of netural saftey switch, is that correct? I havent read the entire instructions for the harness yet, will it be setup for this or will I have to splice into the main harness for this?

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    Second question, I assume this is the switch that accuates the rear brake lights, correct?

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  14. Aug 27, 2006
    neptco19

    neptco19 That guy....

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    First pic is the reverse light switch, and yes the second is the brake lights.
     
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    dauntless_powered

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    i agree on the auto strippers....the ones i get from the navy (hence i am an electronics tech) are a combined unit...we pay almost a hundred bucks a piece for ours, but i have seen them out in town for around 70 or so......its an all in one unit, you put the connector on the tool and then its strips and crimps in one easy motion. they are the bomb!!!
     
  16. Aug 27, 2006
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    Well I like the auto strippers and we use them at work all the time, but I'm to tight to buy them for home use, but yea they do make life much easier.
     
  17. Aug 29, 2006
    wreckless123

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    Well I am offically over my head! The worst part is I dont even have the fuse block mounted yet!!R) Here is my next question, on the Painless kit do you route all the wires through the firewall behind the fuse block first and then bring what you need back through the firewall at another location?

    Frustration sets in!!

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  18. Aug 29, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Wow. I just mounted my EZ-Wire and ran the wires for the engine compartment through the firewall. That was it.
     
  19. Aug 29, 2006
    Rampdog

    Rampdog knuckle buster

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    My kit came with three bundles, forward, mid and rear. I just laid out the bundles in that order, and then worked on one area at a time. I started up front, then went to the middle then the rear. I didn't fasten the fuse block until last myself, and I don't have any idea why, :oops: just the way I did it. FWIW, I kept all of the wiring instead of cutting off the circuits I don't need. Maybe some day I'll have a need for that particular wire. I just butt-spliced the end so it wouldn't short, and wrapped them up.
     
  20. Aug 29, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Yeah, forward, mid, rear. That's what I had.

    I cut stuff off. Long enough to splice onto in the future but I'm realistic. I don't need all that, extra wires bug me.
     
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