T-90 Clutch Problem! Round 2!

hey guys!,

Me again... ok so i finally got the cable and clutch fork installed (thanks again). So... now i think i need a new clutch. tell me what you think.

clutch pedal down, shift into 1st or reverse is just pure grinding... it wont engage at all.. EXCEPT:

when transfer case is in 4 LOW, it DOES shift into 1st AND reverse however, when i let the clutch pedal back out, nothing happens... its just like being in neutral.

Do i need a new Clutch or is there something i need to look at in my transfer case? why does it let me go into first when i am in 4 low?

 

take the inspection plate off the transfer case and see if the tranny is turning ..JACK IT UP FIRST....If the tranny is turning you need to look at your transfer case..I have a re-built one of those for sale too!! Sounds to me like you lost a gear in the transfer case..

 

oh man that sucks... i was hoping it was just the clutch (would be quick and relatively painless, ok i'll jack it up this week and take a look. Hey let me ask you... is it possible that the cable stretched and is too long? with the inspection cover off, i can see that the clutch fork doesnt push the throwout all that much. what if i shortened the cable?

 

Story of my life to long...There is only so much adjustment on the clutch cable..Look and see how much you have left on the threaded clevis..you will have to turn it clockwise to shorten it..

 

yeah i have it shortened as far as i can... maybe it stretched. the cable itself looks really old, i should replace it. theres a bit of play in the linkage too. when the throwout bearing moves towards the clutch, how far should it be moving? i think i only saw it move about a half inch, maybe an inch

 

How about if you pull the coil wire, put it in first high, push in clutch and try starter. Should'nt move. With clutch out it should. You could try all gears and transfer positions that way. Just a thought.

 

Hi Todd... not sure i understand what you are suggesting... i tried something similar to that by putting it in first with the engine off and then starting it... the jeep jumps forward and actually starts up, but still no clutch. Can you elaborate a bit?

 

Thanks for joining the party Glenn... i just went back out to the garage and pushed down on the pedal... its definitely more than an inch of play. I've got a feeling that the cable isnt pulling enough on the clutch fork (ie: maybe the cable is too long). im trying to figure out a way of shortening it without butchering it to see if thats the problem. When i look through the inspection hole on the tranny i can see that the throwout bearing (hope i am using the correct term!) only moves about a half inch to an inch when the pedal is depressed. seems to me like it should be more than that? any thoughts?

 

hey 1963CJ5... i did what you told me to... inspection cover off with the engine running, the tranny turns fine... when i push down on the clutch pedal, the throwout bearing makes contact and spins as well... still not sure what i am doing wrong!!

 

Clutch plate stuck to the flywheel? How long has it sat without running?

 

Have you driven this around before this happened..

 

still havent driven it... i bought it last october without taking a test spin because it was a project jeep.. gas tank was disconnected, no seats, no brakes, etc. I've got everything done on it now except this stupid clutch problem... driving me nuts!! It probably hasnt been driven in about 3 years at least, but i have run the engine about once a week since i bought it.

 

T TODD is probally right again !!! Take a small prybar ,( cats paw in the south ) stick it through the inspection plate and try to move the clutch ..It will give a little if not stuck to the flywheel..Mine froze after 4 months sitting in my garage..Broke it loose that way...I have been told..never tried this myself..Pull it down the pavement in third gear to loosen the clutch plate...Your call..........

 

ok guys, im gonna have to ask you to forgive my ignorance once again because when i look into the inspection hole, im not all that sure what im looking at...i can however tell you that pretty much everything in front of the throwout bearing spins when i turn it over...

i can try to unstick the clutch if thats the problem but how do i know what the clutch is in this mess?

 

Look at the very top and you should see the clutch plate..if theres any left..you wont see much take a long wide screwdriver and try to pry it towards the rear of the jeep ..not too much as it will break off..

 

I bought mine all in pieces as well. Clutch plate was stuck to the fly wheel. Glen's right, adjust the cable first. Then I jacked up one rear wheel, Held the clutch disengaged with a ratchet strap and used a screwdriver to pry a little then turn the engine a bit with a socket and pry some more. You can rock the rear wheel back and forth to apply some torque.