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Side Tire Carrier - Inside the side panel

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by tdean48, Jun 8, 2006.

  1. Jun 8, 2006
    tdean48

    tdean48 Dirt Clod Thrower

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    Anybody have diagrams or photos of how the tire carrier is mounted inside the rear quarter panel?
    What size nuts & bolts used to mount it? TIA
     
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    zachUSMC

    zachUSMC New Member

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  3. Jun 8, 2006
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Heres a post-autopsy pic of my tubs-


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    At the bootom of the pic you can see the four mounting Holes in the sides, the horizontal hat channel brace that is (was) spot welded to the side with the wood reinforcing block that goes in it & the vertical brace (thing with the big hole) that runs between the side panel & the wheel box. You can"t see them but the vertical brace has holes in the edge that line up with the holes in the side panel.



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    Here on the upper panel you can see where the side panel has rotted out due to moisture getting trapped by the brace & wood block, a very common problem. You can also see on the inside of the wheel box where the verticle brace was spot welded to it.

    I mounted the carrier with 1/2" bolts, thats the size of the holes.


    More pics @ my website below-

    H.
     
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  4. Jun 8, 2006
    tdean48

    tdean48 Dirt Clod Thrower

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    Thanks a lot Howard & Zach - gives me good info & visual references....
     
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  5. Jun 9, 2006
    Posimoto

    Posimoto Hopeless JEEP Addict

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    A side mount spare is really an awful idea if you plan on doing much wheeling in that Jeep. If it's just an around town cruiser, go for it. If you are going to put a 33 x 12.50 on it you'll probably have to space it out from the body. Puts a lot of stress on the body back there.
     
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    tommy b

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    Howard,

    How did you separate the panels so neatly? Spot weld driller? Some info, please.

    tommy b
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Spot welder drill & regular drills as well. Although I punched through in a few spots to begin with using the regular drills, even taking time to sharpen the bits every now & then, it went a lot faster. I had two drills on the go, one with a 1/8" bit & one with a 5/16".

    Worst part was finding all the welds, about 10% just don't show up & those are the ones you spend 90% of the time on. You can get close to where they are after you've popped the rest but a lot of the time you end up just *that* much off to one side :(.

    The sides, boxes & cowling went relatively easily, the tailgate surrounds & riser were a !^*&$%$ nightmare.

    H.
     
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  8. Jun 9, 2006
    tdean48

    tdean48 Dirt Clod Thrower

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    What wheeling I do is mostly farm fields & paths that I cut with bushhog - I've already got 33's that have to go! Doing more of a restore to stock than tricking out for wheeling - been there, done that with my TJ. Thanks just the same.
     
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  9. Jun 10, 2006
    tommy b

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    Thanks. I'm off to sharpen a couple of drill bits. A way I've found to locate the spot welds is to lightly go over the surface with a wire wheel or a small scotchbrite wheel. This will remove the paint off the flat but it will stay in the weld, which is dimpled. Works great except for the ones close to an inside corner, where the wheel is too big. I don't mind punching through because I then plug weld it rather than spot welding.

    tommy b
     
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