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Anybody arc weld floors in??

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by hardknox00001, Mar 31, 2006.

  1. Mar 31, 2006
    hardknox00001

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    I have some floor panels to install but all I have is a Miller arc welder/generator. Has anybody welded the floors (thin sheet metal) with an arc welder and had good results. I don't have the money :( for a MIG or I'd already have one. I can weld big thick stuff all day long but don't have much if any experience with small, thin stuff.
     
  2. Mar 31, 2006
    termin8ed

    termin8ed I didn't do it Staff Member

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    Well, If I remember right from class wednesday, try 6013 rods. They're supposed to be for smaller guage metals. Might try a small diameter rod with a low amp setting on some test pieces first. It can be done, just gotta figure out the rgiht amperage so your not blowing thru.

    .. i've arc welded thin metal before, just didn't look pretty. But thats before I really knew what I was doing;)
     
  3. Mar 31, 2006
    michigan_pinstripes

    michigan_pinstripes I'm not lost, I'm wandering

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    yep, 6013 is a good multi-use rod for almost anything. turn down the amps, watch out how hot the panels gets.
     
  4. Mar 31, 2006
    jd7

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    Rondog

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    That's interesting! I don't have a MIG welder, and don't forsee getting one, but I have an old Lincoln AC180 arc welder, and that's an interesting option. Click, save.
     
  6. Mar 31, 2006
    1963cj5

    1963cj5 Member

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    Havent done that one yet.. Nice info though... I bought an in expensive wire feed from harbor freight for under 150.00 ... Havent fell through the floors yet .Seemed to look and work well...
     
  7. Apr 1, 2006
    jcarson

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    yea try your 3/32 ethir 6010 or 6013 7018 works well too. i weld almost everything with an ar welder or tig i dont like migs at all. you can weld thin jyust fine with a stick just get an arc and go like hell,jared
     
  8. Apr 1, 2006
    scott milliner

    scott milliner Master Fabricator

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    I tried using this rod. Eather I had to rusty of metal or I didn't know what I was doing. I just couldn't get it to work right. I saved and bought a Miller 135 with the cover gas. It works much better, easier, and faster.
     
  9. Apr 1, 2006
    PeteL

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    Regarding the Eastwood "Stitch Welder" - I tried one of these a few years ago, and I can't really say if it works or not. Maybe I didn't know how to run it right.

    Every once in a while, it would lay down a nice bead without burning through or sticking. But that happens every once in a while anyway when I try welding thin metal with a regular stick welder at low amps. I can't figure out how to do it consistently with the Stich Welder OR by hand! Depends how much coffee I've had, as much as anything.

    I guess I'd say the stitcher didn't make a dramatic difference for me, but I'd be very interested to hear if anyone else knows the secret to getting the best out of one.

    Pete
     
  10. Apr 2, 2006
    DanStew

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    I am wondering if anyone on the board has used the new adhesiv ecompound alot of car makers are using, instead of welding> I guess it pretty much is a super strong glue to hold panels together that ccompares to welding strength, but without the welding. Say if you had just some patching to do with no joints to the jeeps sides, i would think aobut using that. just cut the metal a bit larger than the hole and glue it down, done.
     
  11. Apr 2, 2006
    timgr

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    No personal experience, but it's use is becoming widespread. Pro shops like it. Really good for roof panels, since there's no warping.
     
  12. Apr 2, 2006
    zed

    zed Iowa- Gateway to Nebraska

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    what's the glue called? sound interesting.
     
  13. Apr 2, 2006
    scott milliner

    scott milliner Master Fabricator

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    It's used alot in Auto Body. It's mainly used on door panals. The skin is glued to the shell then the edge of the skin is bent around the shell frame. I have not used it, but I seen it done. I've only spot welded them on. (Years ago when I worked in the Auto Body industry.)
     
  14. Apr 2, 2006
    66cj5

    66cj5 Jeep with no name

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    think the 3/32" rod is too big, would use 1/16".
     
  15. Apr 2, 2006
    jd7

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    I haven't but I have a good friend with a body shop that sees it all the time. He doesn't like it and won't use it unless the customer or insurance company wants him to. But he says he hasn't seen any failures up to this point. It's funny I was just in there week before last and he was using on a classic Mustang to put a quarter panel on at the customer's insistance.:rofl:
     
  16. Apr 2, 2006
    Dave1250

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    Lords product makes the stuff you are talking about . I saw it being used at a trade school a few years ago . It was great stuff .
     
  17. Apr 5, 2006
    Johnnie Mayeux

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    For thin metal use 6013 rods in 5/64 or smaller rod. try a 50 0r 55 amps it will work just fine on 16 guage mild steel.
     
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