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t-90 problems

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by lostexan_78, Mar 15, 2006.

  1. Mar 15, 2006
    lostexan_78

    lostexan_78 Sponsor

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    still...t-90 problems

    So I adjusted the shift rods because I was unable to depress the clutch and shift through gears. That didnt work so I removed the inspection plate to ensure free movement of the throwout bearing and clutch. I do have free movement of those plus, I turned the engine over by hand and the gears only move when the clutch is depressed. what I had noticed at first before adjusting shift rods, was that the shift rod ends would not move freely. I removed the cover plate from atop of the tranny, and tried using a pry bar with minimal force to see if something was binding and nothing was. I couldnt find any information in the pubs. I think this might end up in a recycling yard.:? :mad:
     
  2. Mar 15, 2006
    steverdenver

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    Jack up the rear of the Jeep and put on Blocks One wheel off the ground if you have a regular diff-- both with a locker.
    With the cover off, manually place the gears in neutral
    Turn the wheels--- the gears in the trans should turn in neutral.

    Look and see if you have a broken gear

    if so


    Drain the oil out of the tranny and remove the broken parts that may be jamming the gears

    if not

    Consider draining the oil to inspect the tranny guts.


    T-90s are very simple transmissions and easy to understand and rebuild--
    You will get it fixed eventually.

    However maybe your clutch is just not releasing.
     
  3. Mar 15, 2006
    arts cj5

    arts cj5 New Member

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    your t-90 is sad send it to me and it will be happy/i will not charge you
     
  4. Mar 15, 2006
    Hippo393

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    Did you replace the pilot bearing recently?
     
  5. Mar 16, 2006
    lostexan_78

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    I have not changed out the pilot bearing Im thinking I should have. To further inform, I have the body off and driveshafts were allready removed. I did though just install the new clutch and assy. It was working fine b-4 I reinstalled the enigne. I had drained th efluid about 2 weeks ago, and wiped the inside sup woth lint-free rags and such, I did not see any metal particals at the time. I refilled it with synthetic oil, and was turnign throught the gears. So it has to be something I had just done. I am in the process of removing the enigne again to investigate.
     
  6. Mar 22, 2006
    lostexan_78

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    Well I have the engine out, and I went ahead and drained the fluid out of the transmission to see if maybe something was stuck between the gears. I see nothing. I am still not being able to spin the transmission, or move the forks. the tnxfr moves freely in neut.
     
  7. Mar 22, 2006
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    Any chance you have it in 2 gears at once instead of neutral? Either in 2nd or direct and 1st or reverse?
     
  8. Mar 23, 2006
    lostexan_78

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    It looks as if that is what it might be, im trying to upload the pictures...if that is what it is, what is the cure?
     
  9. Mar 23, 2006
    lostexan_78

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    picture is from camera phone
     
  10. Mar 23, 2006
    timgr

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    Looks like it's in two gears to me - though I'm not the most expert per T-90s. Neutral is both shift collars in the middle; one or the other shift collar slides over to go into gear, not both.
     
  11. Mar 23, 2006
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    It's in 2nd and 1st.
     
  12. Mar 23, 2006
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    As for the cure I don't know what to say other than figure out why the forks won't budge.
     
  13. Mar 23, 2006
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    here's a view of the shift forks and mechanisms
    lots of little parts in there
     
  14. Mar 23, 2006
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    the FSM goes into detail about the shift interlock assy; since you didn't disassemble the trans, I doubt anything has changed there.
    could it be one of the levers got bumped and put it into both gears ?
    I wonder if playing/depressing one side or the other of the interlock will free up the fork(s) for shifting ?
    pressure applied to the lever as well as the collar at the same time may jar it free
     
  15. Mar 23, 2006
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    Your shift locks are in the wrong position. The parts 6.190 have been rotated to the wrong interlink position... It's been a LONG time since I worked on a column shift, so take it for what it's worth. I just remember fighting with them years ago.
     
  16. Mar 25, 2006
    lostexan_78

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    thanx fellas, Ill see what I can do.
     
  17. Mar 25, 2006
    steverdenver

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    Push reverse gear toward the neutral position while working the shift lever into neutral for that gear.


    btw-

    Why don't you convert to a top shifter housing?
     
  18. Mar 29, 2006
    lostexan_78

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    Is there some literature or something on the procedures of switching to top mounted?

    update= well I got it lose, and it spins freely, I have it in neutrual( i think ) i can hold on to the input shaft and spin the e-brake drum and the input dont move. So gotta lube it up and install the engine.
     
  19. Mar 29, 2006
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    not really
    you remove the side shift forks and linkage; plug the holes in the case.
    The top shift tower/cover w/forks slides right down over and into the trans. You would need the floor tower cover, lots of those around.
    The shift lever on the column should prob be removed as well.
    If you do remove the side shift/column shift linkage, don't toss it, someone will want/need it.
     
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