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Drilling 9" drums?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Rondog, Feb 7, 2006.

  1. Feb 7, 2006
    Rondog

    Rondog just hangin' out

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    My 9" brakes are in very good condition and I can't really afford to convert to 11" at this time, so I plan to use them for awhile.

    My question is...has anybody drilled holes in their 9" drums, and gotten any significant improvement?
     
  2. Feb 7, 2006
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    I would think it would make a decent improvement. That being said if it gives 8-10% improvement (highly unlikely), the 10" brakes would give you about 15% more braking just in surface area.
     
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    Rondog

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    I figure it's gotta help some just from a cooling standpoint if nothing else. I'm just wondering if anybody has already done it with 9" drums, and what their results were.
     
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    Hawk62cj5

    Hawk62cj5 Captain of OldSchool

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    If you put yours in the Water at all I would do it , 9" drums + water = scary stops. Every time I go into the water with mine its all over the place till I burn/squeeze it out. If I get my own drill press it will be my first project.
    BTW I have 11"s on the front and 9"s on the rear.
     
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    m38willys

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    Jason, If your brakes aren't working well, you can ease your jeep up to the back of mine and with my 4 speed I'll slow you down.....R) R)
    ha ha ha












    Sorry man.....:rofl:
     
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    Hawk62cj5

    Hawk62cj5 Captain of OldSchool

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    About did that at telico ,several times R).They work great dry but after they get wet the steer the jeep where THEY want to go not a strait stop. I understand that drilling the drums reduces this greatly.
     
  7. Feb 8, 2006
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    It can't hurt... :D
    If you do it, take pics, document the process!

    Got a drill press? Or know someone with a Bridgeport and a dividing head?
    Just be sure to maintain the balance of the drum (equidistant hole spacing)
    Let us know...
     
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    grannyscj

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    Drilling rotors is supposed to help with degassing. I would think the same would occur with drums.:v6:
     
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    m38willys

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    Didn't someone do this on this board a few years back. Seems like I remember seeing pics of it. Biggest benifit I think I could see would be allowing water to drain out easily.
     
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    Old Bill

    Old Bill Aggressively passive....

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    Oh Billy!!!!! I believe this is yours..... :D
     
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    lynn

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    I've done it on my 11's. Yep, it allows the shoes to push the water out immediately. Brakes are good after deep water crossings. On a long, dry braking, say down a mountain, the holes will allow the gasses to dissapate between the shoe and the drum that cause hot brake fade... in turn aiding brake cooling....

    Lots of info and my pics in this thread:
    http://www.earlycj5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22391

    and here:
    http://www.earlycj5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9118

    Check Billy (blevisay) he has some pics of his being done on a Bridgeport.
     
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    Rondog

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    OK, I know all about the process, the benefits and how everybody does it to 11" drums! What I'm asking is, has anybody done it to 9" drums, and did you get any significant improvement on the 9" brakes? I can't do the 11" conversion anytime soon, so I'd like to improve the 9" for now.
     
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    Old Bill

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    Ron, I think that the consensus is to give 'er a rip and a snort. Certainly can't hurt any, and at very least water crossing won't be an issue any longer. Reading through the articles HERE lead me to believe that it helps any size drum brake. If it helps you any, I'll be doing my 9" rears in conjunction with my 11" fronts.
     
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    Rondog

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    I'm gonna drill 'em when I get to that point Thad, but I was just wanting to find out if anyone has already done it, and if it helped or was just a waste of time given the much smaller braking surface of the 9" drums/shoes.
     
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    blevisay

    blevisay Oh Noooooooooooooooo! Staff Member

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    I say try it!

    I ran with the 9" and didnt have any problems , without drilling.

    It can do nothing but improve them IMO
     
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    Rondog

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    Wish I still had access to a Bridgeport and a dividing head....
     
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    blevisay

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    The only way to fly IMO.......:beer:


    Took 1 hour to do 4 .......while talking to Lynn on the phone
     
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    pathkiller

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    Anybody ever had to pass a vehicular inspection with drilled drums? Did it pass? Here in Virginia we have an annual inspection and the inspectors can be pretty nitpicky. My Wrangler failed last year with about 5/16" of brake pad left. I argued with the guy that I could squeeze 5000 more miles out of those pads but he didn't buy it. Just wondering if drilled drums would raise eyebrows.
     
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    lynn

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    No valid reason it wouldn't pass. Mine passes annual here in PA... but I go to a "special" place... ;) :D
    Seriously, no different than drilled rotors. No reason it shouldn't pass, but alot depends on where you go...

    Ron, go for it!! It really can't hurt, it can only help.
     
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