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No oil to left side of engine

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by stetz, Jan 27, 2006.

  1. Jan 27, 2006
    stetz

    stetz New Member

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    After having my 1969 odd fire v6 rebuilt, I found that it is not getting any oil to the lifters on the leftside of the engine. The rightside gets plenty of oil (removed spark plugs and intake and turned engine over with starter for 1 to 2 minutes several times).
    I think there must be something blocking the flow. I need to know the path the oil takes from the rightside to the leftside so I can find and solve this problem.
    I have good oil pressure-when hot 20psi@ idle and 55psi@ 60mph.
    I tried blowing compressed air from one side to the other (Intake, rockers, pushrods,and lifters removed) no air will came out the other side.
     
  2. Jan 27, 2006
    vanguard

    vanguard

    Sounds like there's a problem with debris in oil passages. Check out a copy of V6 performance for a detailed breakdown including pics of the oiling system.

    I can probably help with some scans but it won't be until later tonight.
     
  3. Jan 27, 2006
    Rondog

    Rondog just hangin' out

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    When it was rebuilt, was there any silicone sealer (RTV) used? That stuff is notorious for blocking oil passages.
     
  4. Jan 27, 2006
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    Don't start this motor again until this is fixed the mains are fed thru this gallery and are being starved at this point. There is a crossover and plug at the rear of the block just below the camshaft center line.
     
  5. Jan 27, 2006
    stetz

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    I couldn't find a v6 performance book, but found 2 drawings of the lubrication system, not detailed well. I have a general idea now of the direction the oil flows. The two main oil galleries are connected at the front of the block, either over or through the front cam journal. The front cam journal has a groove in it and the bearing has 2 holes, could this be the connecting point for the 2 galleries or is the connection casted into the block near this?
     
  6. Jan 27, 2006
    Posimoto

    Posimoto Hopeless JEEP Addict

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    Like the man said:

     
  7. Jan 28, 2006
    nyejos11

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    Are you sure the oil is just not making it thru the rocker arm shaft? I was just working on cleaning mine for a rebuild, and they were blocked. All of this solid gray sludge just kept coming out of the passages.

    Josh
     
  8. Jan 28, 2006
    stetz

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    I can get compressed air from the rocker area to the left main gallery but not between the right and left galleries.
     
  9. Jan 28, 2006
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    There are 2 plugs behind the timing chain... make sure they are not set to deep, get a really long pipe cleaner and or some wire with a blob of sodder at the end to snake in an see if it goes across.
     
  10. Jan 28, 2006
    stetz

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    If I snake it as you say will I need to remove the oil pump and go in that way?
     
  11. Jan 30, 2006
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    You have to go all the way down to having the timing cover off... You might even have to pull the timing chain and gears to get to the pulg that are there to snake with (been a while and the memory is going, but NOT the hair :rofl: ).

    If work gives me a chance I will see if I can find a pic to post.
     
  12. Feb 2, 2006
    stetz

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    I would appreciate any scans of pictures that can show me the root the oil takes to go from the oilpump to the left LIFTER gallery. I would like to find the most likely place were it could be pluged up, before I start disassembling.
     
  13. Feb 25, 2006
    stetz

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    I pulled the motor and took it back to the meachine shop, they took it apart and found that the comp cam they put in had no groove in the front at the bearing area. Without this groove oil has no way of getting to the left side of the block. Comp cam said they should have noticed this at the time of the rebuild. Any way it now has a groove and is getting oil everywere it should with 50 psi, bench tested at the shop. I will be picking it up sometime this week and hope the be jeepin' soon.
     
  14. Feb 25, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Good luck to ya, thanks for the update!

    Keep us posted.
     
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