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Dana 18 Transfer Case -- Front Cap Stuck

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Smitty, Jan 19, 2006.

  1. Jan 19, 2006
    Smitty

    Smitty Smitty

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    Rebuilding my '59 CJ5. Trans/transfer case is the last (and most aggrevating) part to be restored. It has been a long time since I messed with a tranny so I'm in new territory here.

    After finally getting the front yoke off (two guys, heat, impact wrench and a lot of muscle) yesterday, this morning I started to tear down the transfer case.

    The front cap is stuck part way off, about 1/2 inch out and will not move any further, nor will it go back to the original seated position. Seems to be stuck on the hi-lo shift rod (that's the long one that goes into the xfer case). I assumed the cap would slip off the shift rods, but that does not seem to be the case.

    The manuals I have say the intermediate gear has to come out first. I did not do this as I could not see how that would keep the cap from coming off, and I do not want to mess with getting the needle bearings back in place if I can avoid it. I'm not rebuiding the tranny, just replacing seals and gaskets.

    Does the intermediate gear have to come out so you can get at the shift fork to loosen the set screw? If that's the case, then that's the route I'll take. Have I missed something that will keep the front cap from coming off?

    Any advice would be very much appreciated. I would include pics, but camera interface to the 'puter is on the fritz.
     
  2. Jan 19, 2006
    grannyscj

    grannyscj Headed to the Yukon

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  3. Jan 19, 2006
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    Well Smitty its been awhile now since I tore mine down so I can't recall exactly. All I can say is that I followed Rick Stiver's instructions and everything went smoothly.
     
  4. Jan 19, 2006
    DanStew

    DanStew Preowned Merkin salesman Staff Member

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    is the shift rail still stuck inside. I know i had that problem but it has been a while and dont remember it much, but for some reason i think it maybe the shift rial and the fork is still bolted to it
     
  5. Jan 19, 2006
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    I just finished (firefightermikes) dana 18. No you do not need the intermediate gear out to remove the front case. The clearance inside the shift rail housing is close and if your rod has a burr on it it will more than likely keep it from sliding thru. Check the placement of the shift rods as far as the 2wd/4wd, the interlock pill may be snagged between the rods and causing them to bind up and holding the housing in place. The intermediate gear is the 1st thing I put in when rebuilding them so no you can take the whole case apart and leave that for last if you want. Try taking the ball and spring detents out of the front housing and see if it helps.
     
  6. Jan 19, 2006
    Corveeper

    Corveeper Member

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    There are two caps on either side of the housing that hold a spring and a ball. They are what lock the shift rail into place when they enter the rail detent when shifting from 2WD to 4WD or High to Low Range. Have you removed these? They’re items #17,18 and 19 in grannyscj’s exploded view, but the diagram is a little misleading since they are just below the shift levers pivot and on the left and right side right where the shift rails go through.
    It sounds like you may be hang’n up on these.
     
  7. Jan 19, 2006
    Corveeper

    Corveeper Member

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    Heh, beat me to it. ;)
    BTW, the interlock pill he’s talk’n ‘bout is item #20 in the diagram. It’s what keeps you from shifting into low range until your in 4WD. Very well could be hang’n up on that also.
    When I rebuilt mine, it was something I left out so I can use low range in 2WD.
     
  8. Jan 19, 2006
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    Like McRuff mentioned it's probably the interlock pill holding it. I fought with mine but found by moving the levers there is a position where it will come off easily. I just don't remember well enough to describe it, other than try different positions with the levers. What happens is the pill catches in the groove like it's supposed to do, but we don't want that to happen when trying to disassemble it.
     
  9. Jan 20, 2006
    Smitty

    Smitty Smitty

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    The interlock pill has to be the culprit. I had already removed the poppit balls and springs, but missed the fact that the interlock was there also.
    I looked at the D18 tonight, additional question to make sure I'm reading this right.
    Should the interlock actually slide out one side or the other? I doubt it, can't see how.
    So that leaves jiggling the shaft(s) until the interlock moves to a position to allow removal. I tinker some more tomorrow.
    Thanks for the advice.
     
  10. Jan 20, 2006
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    The interlock pill won't slide out until you get the housing off of at least one of the shift rods.
     
  11. Jan 20, 2006
    termin8ed

    termin8ed I didn't do it Staff Member

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    I "think" one rail stays with the shifter housing, the other stays in the Tcase???
    Like Glenn said. You just have to wiggle it around untill you get the interlock to fall in just the right spot and things will slide out just like everyone says they are supposed to.
    Almost had the housing fall in my lap when it finally popped loose:shock: That'll make you move fast.
    Good luck...
     
  12. Jan 20, 2006
    Smitty

    Smitty Smitty

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    It worked... got it loose. With a little persuasion from a ball peen and wood block I got the front cap back to it's seated position. Once the hi-lo shift rod was fully back it darn near fell apart.
    The interlock is one part that will not be reinstalled.
    Thanks to all for the help.
     
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