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knuckle (d27a) stud mod clearance question

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by zed, Sep 22, 2005.

  1. Sep 22, 2005
    zed

    zed Iowa- Gateway to Nebraska

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    i have installed the studs in the knuckle housing and pulled them into place using washer spacers and a nut. the head is flat on one edge so i didn't have to grind the seat for them to sit flat and well.

    of course now when i test fit with they hit the ball edge when turned to extreme. i have no problem grinding ball bottom a little at the 5 oclock and 7 oclock positions but am concerned that grinding the 9 and 3 oclock positions will cause seal problems. how much grinding can be done before i weaken the ball?

    i will be using my dremel to grind gently.

    would it be reasonable to grind a touch off the head of the studs at that position? they are grade 8 from krage. i will be using grade 8 metal locking nuts and NOT nylock.
     
  2. Sep 22, 2005
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Is this a bad time to say that I didn't install the studs at those postions? :(
     
  3. Sep 22, 2005
    zed

    zed Iowa- Gateway to Nebraska

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    R) well, not as bad as if i had already decided to try the grinding.

    i seemed to have forgotten that little section of vern's write up when i read it a while ago :oops: :oops: went back to re-read on a suspicion and uttered the usual "four letter incantations".

    so... actually on my way to work this am. i was thinking that i could push the studs back out at the 9 and 3 positions and retap tap the holes for what ever would thread a 3/8" hole. then reinstall larger grade 8 short bolts back in those places. and still grind a little at the 7 and 5 positions?

    what do yall think? safe? clever? last ditch attempt to sweep my dumb mistake under the carpet and not let my wife know what a moron she married (well .. ok .. , reconfirm her suspicions then.) R)
    ??

    i'm glad i doing this one step and one side at a time. R)
     
  4. Sep 22, 2005
    zed

    zed Iowa- Gateway to Nebraska

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    ok, by my calcs. i should drill out the 3/8 to 25/64" and tap for a 7/16" x 20 thread bolt.

    well ok the machine supply shop's calcs.

    does that seem like it will be awfully large for that space?

    if this doesn't work look for my new addition to the wanted space for a drivers side (left) d27a knuckle in decent condition for a 69 jc5.
     
  5. Sep 22, 2005
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I know one or more of the holes in my knuckles had been stripped / redrilled / re-threaded, but I can't recall to what spec. Seems like there wasn't a whole lot of extra width in that spot.
     
  6. Sep 22, 2005
    Glenn

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    Don't forget the holes in the spindle will have to be 7/16 also, so I'd first determine any affect different size bolts might have. You might just be stuck with grinding the bolt heads.
     
  7. Sep 22, 2005
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    Also I advise against using metal lock nuts on studs. I'd use lock washers and grade 8 nuts.
     
  8. Sep 22, 2005
    zed

    zed Iowa- Gateway to Nebraska

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    i rechecked and if i take a little bit at a time with lots of cutting oil, i should probably be able to use a 7/16 x 20 tapered tap without redrilling. this is probably what they did in your case mike since the is no other size up from the earlier. 12 mm is larger than 3/8 (6/16).
     
  9. Sep 22, 2005
    lafester

    lafester Sponsor

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    i wouldn't give up on those studs yet.

    iirc i had to grind a little off the heads to make it work. try that first to see how much clearance you need and if you feel comfortable with the stud strength i would keep them. it really shouldn't take much for proper clearance.

    chris
     
  10. Sep 22, 2005
    zed

    zed Iowa- Gateway to Nebraska

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    thanks chris. i'll try that tonite first. :)
     
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