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Early CJ Myths > Need Your Input

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Boyink, Sep 7, 2005.

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    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    As a way to combat the early CJ ignorance commonly seen on other Jeep related web sites, we'd like to get some "myth-buster" pages into the tech section.

    These would be from the perspective of building a ECJ what I would call "normal to mild" trail and rock use, Tellico without Helicopter/Guardrail/Schoolbus, etc. Obviously if someone is building a competition rockcrawler then the answers would be different.

    Things like...

    "C" channel frames are weak and need to be completely boxed.

    Early CJ axles are inherently weak or too narrow and need to be replaced with full size truck or Jeep axles.

    I can see using quotes from other forums as long as the username or any identifying data is removed.

    The basic goal is to get people to try 'wheeling an ECJ in stock/rebuilt shape before cutting it up for larger engines / axles / drivetrain as there seems to be a general perception out there that all that "upgrading" is a requirement to hit the first trail.

    So tell us...what myths have you heard?
     
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    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

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    Ross steering has to be replaced with power saganaw.


    You must have OBA and engine driven is the best way of doing it

    2 piece axles are worthless and must be replaced with 30 spline 1 piece.

    I could go on and on. Basicly look at my JEEP and it shows how listening to other people is a bad thing.
     
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    blevisay

    blevisay Oh Noooooooooooooooo! Staff Member

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    The Hurricane doesn't have enough power (ducking)


    :hurrican: :hurrican: :hurrican: :hurrican:
     
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    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Nothing is interchangeable on these old Jeeps.
     
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    willysnut

    willysnut Banned

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    Quit duckin I can't hit ya!! I know the truth hurts.
     
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    m38willys

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    If you can just get people to stop repeating/regurgitating the crap they read in most off road mags you'll make a good size dent.
     
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    Hawk62cj5

    Hawk62cj5 Captain of OldSchool

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    very true , one guy in a mag I was reading this weekend said that you MUST have a crawl of 110:1 to 150:1 to rock climb with a jeep with a manual tranny.
     
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    m38willys

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    I think I read that same mag. Those poor saps who did the rubicon all those years with ill equipped jeeps........ 150 would twice as low as I have....... man, how slow can you go? I guess it depends on what your into.....
     
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    gscj5

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    You need 35" super swampers to go through mud.
     
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    Rondog

    Rondog just hangin' out

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    Only "myth" I'm familiar with is the rollover one, that old JEEPS will rollover in a heartbeat. Any truth to that?
     
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    neptco19

    neptco19 That guy....

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    Ask Dan R)
     
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    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Please keep this on topic.

    All the OT banter will make it harder for me to integrate it into the tech section.
     
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    speedbuggy

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    The T90 / D18 combo will never hold up to any hard useage
     
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    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    The V6 is not a factory Jeep engine :rofl:
     
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    sparky

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    There never has been a diesel Jeep (Universal).
     
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    DanStew

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    9 inch brakes do not stop the jeep ;)

    T90 is a inherently weak tranny
     
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    timgr

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    You can't have fun on the trail without the latest and best equipment.

    Or without spending a lot of money.
     
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    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    T14 transmissions are inherently weak and need replaced.
    The dana 27 and dana 25 axles are not suitable for anything but the mildest of wheelin.
     
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    m38willys

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    -knuckle bolts have to be replaced with studs.
    -6 volt jeeps have to be converted to 12v.
    -vacuum wipers have to be changed to electric.
     
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    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Some of the stuff I'm seeing is more what I'd call good advice rather than a myth in some cases.

    The rollover thing is one though. Sure it's more likely to but only by design and if you drive it safely it's not just going to spontaneously roll over while you're driving it.
     
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