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134 crankcase ventilation

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by kiowamtp, Jul 18, 2005.

  1. Jul 18, 2005
    kiowamtp

    kiowamtp Member

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    OK. I have searched and am more confused then before. There is a lot of talk about V6 PCV valves but not 134's. I need what I believe is a PCV valve (circled red in pic and that is not my CJ's engine). I did not have one installed by the PO and did find one locally but it is missing the internal guts. I cannot find one anywhere let alone a used one. Is it possible to match one up from some other vehicle and would anyone have a part number for a replacement?
     
  2. Jul 18, 2005
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    the Jeep p/n is/was 941311
    maybe cross that at local parts store
    I think they were made by AC/Delco
     
  3. Jul 18, 2005
    vanguard

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    I'd swear mine was on the other side of the motor. I found a new one at the chrysler dealership, but that was 10 years ago.
     
  4. Jul 18, 2005
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    nope it isn't
    not there at all
    just went out and looked :D
     
  5. Jul 18, 2005
    blevisay

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    Maybe a Cal thing......... :D

    Try walacks
     
  6. Jul 18, 2005
    Bruce Hamilton

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    On the later F-134 engines with smog controls and alternators the valve was was on the drivers side. All F-134's before that the valve was located where the one in your picture is. I got a new valve from Walch's just last year since my valve on the FC-150 was missing its guts too.
     
  7. Jul 18, 2005
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    :?
    is that not the same place ?
     
  8. Jul 18, 2005
    blevisay

    blevisay Oh Noooooooooooooooo! Staff Member

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    Its on the drivers side in the pic........am I missing something?
     
  9. Jul 18, 2005
    kiowamtp

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    As far as I know I am only aware of it being on the driver's side. As far as Walck's goes, the discontinued selling them due to defective lots. Still looking. Anyone have a good used one?
     
  10. Jul 18, 2005
    blevisay

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    On my Jeep..........

    Willys works maybe.........or Napa
     
  11. Jul 18, 2005
    Bruce Hamilton

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    My mistake I meant the passenger side as pictured in the 1977 jeep universal shop manual. If you can't get a new replacement then there are a number of parts suppliers who can get you a "take-off" from a used vehicle. These valves do not wears out and every F-134 engine I believe had one.
     
  12. Jul 18, 2005
    blevisay

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    Interesting.......never knew that Thanks!
     
  13. Jul 18, 2005
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    we'll I'll be..... :oops:
    learn something new here all the time
    based on Bruces response above, I went out again at looked at the F4 I have here.
    I had looked on the drivers side; that's where my flatfender had mine :rofl: and all early engines I have seen
    on this engine (CJ5) it's on the pass side, right at the fitting in the intake
    threaded on one side, hose fitting on the other.
    boy do I feel :cry:
    gonna go give it a shake, see if it's good
    there is one on ebay BTW; search: Jeep PCV valve
     
  14. Jul 18, 2005
    Mark W.

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    You will have a very hard time finding a replacement as these were a serviced item not a replaced part like a modern PCV. They are made to come apart inside there is a ball valve and a spring. you take it apart and just clean it in solvent.

    They really have little to do with emissions or Cal. (althought they do have that side effect) Thier use dates back to WWII when they were used as part of the waterproofing on military jeeps. The Vent tube would allow water straight into the crankcase casing a quick end to travel.

    I know a number of people who have 134L's In CJ-2A and 3A's that have the PCV instead of the vent tube. It was more of an option on the CJ's.

    I would suggest looking for one through a used Jeep part dealer and then just clean it up.

    In the mean time. Try one for a 65-68 mustang with a 200 L6 they are a straight through design (might be a 90 degree) any way all you need is the minor spring pressure to help moderate the flow so it doesn't pickup oil. Plumb it in with some rubber hose temperaraly.

    There has been a lot of talk about these on a Yahoo Willys group.
     
  15. Jul 18, 2005
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    Mark are you taliking about the early one, mounted on the side cover, that's threaded on both ends ?
    the other style seems to be available
     
  17. Jul 19, 2005
    kiowamtp

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    That's the one I need. Threaded on both ends. Unless someone has the guts. I have the shell.
     
  18. Jul 19, 2005
    SIDSCJ

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    I've got two spares at home. I'll check tonite if they're the type you need. One is from a '56, the other from mid '60's so I should have what you need :)
     
  19. Jul 19, 2005
    kiowamtp

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    Thanks a lot. I will be out of town for 2-3 days. I'll check back then. I appreciate any and all help.

    Thanks
     
  20. Jul 19, 2005
    kamel

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    Yup, that's the pcv valve. It shouldn't go bad -- just need cleaning every decade or so...

    Some of jeeps didn't have them-- just a tube sticking straight down.

    Keep an eye out for someone parting out an f head engine. They are never in demand, so you ought to be able to get it on the cheap.

    kamel
     
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