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New Cj owner - What do I got??

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by stjjames, Jul 18, 2005.

  1. Jul 18, 2005
    stjjames

    stjjames New Member

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    Hi guys, I'm new to the CJ world - just became a member yesterday!! I purchased a 69' CJ-5, with what I'm under the impression is a Buick V6. It currently sports Wagoneer D44 axles, & a SOA set up. I've yet too clean it up, and have some dirty pictures of the underbelly. The rear diff needs new R&P so it off & on Jack stands - otherwise it would have visited the pressure washer. . . Anyhow I was hoping ya'll could help me with some Identification. Thanks Fellas!! :JEEP:

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  2. Jul 18, 2005
    Jeepenstein

    Jeepenstein Me like Jeep.. 2024 Sponsor

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    Looks liek someone did the hard work for you! Nice jeep, saginaw power steering, dana 20 case, that's one heck of a drive shaft angle.. but that looks like double cardan joint so that should help that out...

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  3. Jul 18, 2005
    lafester

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    remember that driveshaft isn't hooked up to anything since the rear axle is out.

    looks like 231 engine? not sure but it doesn't look like our 225s. the po definately did some major mods to the jeep. also can't tell what tranny is in there. do you have a good pic?

    chris
     
  4. Jul 18, 2005
    61CJ5

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    Looks like a 231 V6, easiest way to know for sure is to google the casting number that's in the valley right behind the intake manifold.

    Are those headers made out of rectangular tubing? The front axle almost looks like full width, do you know what the backspacing is on the wheels?
     
  5. Jul 18, 2005
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    The 4 BBL Intake can give you a clue too. If its an Edelbrock it's a 231 as they don't make one to fit the 225. Other models can be looked up at the manufacture site to see. You can pop the top on the Distro and tell - HEI with even Lobes 231 EF - HEI with odd lobes (not spaced evenly) it's an OF.
     
  7. Jul 18, 2005
    stjjames

    stjjames New Member

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    Its a Holley carb.
    Yes they are full width Axles, D44's out of a Wagoneer I'm told.
    Heres some Tranny pics



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  8. Jul 18, 2005
    stjjames

    stjjames New Member

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    It seems as though it has Edelbrock heads as well. :beer:


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  9. Jul 18, 2005
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    3 or 4 speed trans?

    Any numbers on the side?
     
  10. Jul 18, 2005
    67cj5

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    those axles look really wide for waggy axles. good looking jeep. :AMC:
     
  11. Jul 18, 2005
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    I think that's just the intake manifold
    I don't think it's a 225 from the pics
     
  12. Jul 19, 2005
    willys59cj5

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    I would think we could tell if it's and odd fire or not by looking directly down on the distributor. The valve covers are 231's. Thats about all I can tell.
     
  13. Jul 19, 2005
    stjjames

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    Ive yet to drive it but I believe it is a three speed. Is there supposed to the large hole in the bottom? We almost got it started (guys still looking for the keys) with a screwdriver on the starter, but out of fears of burning it up I waited. Thanks guys, I'm really looking forward to rolling this rig!!! :v6:
     
  14. Jul 19, 2005
    stjjames

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    What is the 4low on the TC. Also is the 231 a desirable motor? I have to slap gears in it to get it rolling, 4.10's are already in the front - with 33's is this cool, or should I go lower? Newb questions - I know my TJ inside & out - this is all new to me :oops: Thanks for all the help :v6:
     
  15. Jul 19, 2005
    lafester

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    i have 4.10s and 33s and i like it. all depends on how crazy you want to get on the trail. it looks like your bellhousing has a big hole cut in it... i would get a new one since there can be a lot of stress on it. 4lo is 4wd low range for the trail or anytime you want to go 1 mph.

    chris
     
  16. Jul 19, 2005
    stjjames

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    Yeah Duhh :D What is the Gearing in the TC? :rofl: sorry for being vague. :rofl: The np231 in my TJ was 2.72to1 low, now 4to1 with TeraLow gears. Where does this fella stand?? ;)
     
  17. Jul 19, 2005
    lafester

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    ahh, i get it.

    mine is around 2.5 to one, i have no idea what the d20 is.

    chris
     
  18. Jul 19, 2005
    Jeepenstein

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    umm the dana 20 is not as low as the 18.. I think it is like 2.00 to 1? man I can't believe I forgot... It's a fairly stout iron case, I think Tera has a 3:1 kit for it... and 4.10's with 33's is fine, perfect IMO depending on what you are going to do but that is a good trail gear. The 231 buick is a great engine.. in fact the only thing that could make it better is if it were a 225OF (just kidding) but yeah keep that motor...

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  19. Jul 19, 2005
    stjjames

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    :D Thanks
     
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    I'll Have to look into Teras gears, Thanks :flag:
     
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