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D44 bearing lock ring help

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Jeepenstein, Jun 11, 2005.

  1. Jun 11, 2005
    Jeepenstein

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    OK here is a dilema I ran into before I left for this job, I am heading home soon so I wanna finish the rear end when I get home. My dilema is the bearing lock ring. I am putting a set of summers brothers flanged axles into my 44. The lock ring that holds the wheel bearing on is larger than the OEM flanged axle. I have the means and material to make them however I need to know what the difference in ID of the ring vs. the OD of the bearing land on the axle, in other words I have to shrink fit it on but i need to know how much intereference there should be on the OEM flanged 44. Thanks ya'll..


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  2. Jun 12, 2005
    Jeepenstein

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    Bueller?Bueeeeeeller? Haha.. Figured this one would be a tough one. I think I am just gonna shoot for .008 to .010 and hope for the best!


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  3. Jun 12, 2005
    Glenn

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    I can't help you on that, but I am wondering if I'm the only one who doesn't have a clear understanding of what you're saying?
     
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    Jeepenstein

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    Yeah I thought that would be a problem.. lemme try again. On an OEM flanged D-44 there is a ring butted up against the wheel bearing to keep it from slipping off. The ring is heated and shrunk onto the shaft after the bearing is pressed on. I am using an aftermarket axle that has a slightly larger bearing ID so I cannot use OEM lockrings, I have to make them. I just wanted to know what the ID of the OEM ring is vs. the OEM axle so I know how much undersize i need to make the lock ring in order to get the proper shrink fit. Hopefully that makes more sense..

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    Glenn

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    Ok, got you now. Sorry I can't help other than wonder have you tried to get the ring from the axle supplier? I'm not familiar with flanged axles, so I take the bearing is not pressed on?
     
  6. Jun 12, 2005
    william_cj3b

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    I'm not shure what the interference should be for the lock ring, but a light press fit is about .0005" to .0008" and a full press fit is usually .001" to .0015". I would think that any greater interference would simply split the lock ring or gall the axle. [disclaimer] WARNING - I haven't actually measured the interference fit of the lock ring. The numbers above are simply what I've learned from industrial machinery maintainence. [/disclaimer] Hopefully nickmil or mcruff (or others) will chime in on this one. They will be a better source of knowledge than I.
     
  7. Jun 12, 2005
    80cj

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    I installed new bearings on a Dana 44 last year and still have the instructions from the bearing manufacturer. It says the lock ring should have .004 inch MINIMUM interference fit. My question is: What kind of steel do you use for the lock ring? Would something like 1018 be too soft?
     
  8. Jun 12, 2005
    Jeepenstein

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    I am using 4018 cold roll, I don't think the OEM rings would be anything more exotic than that, Unless I can get my hands on some GE unobtanium 12 chrome.. hehe.. I am not gonna press em on.. gonna heat shrink them on. The procedure for removing has you drill and chisel them off to prevent any galling.

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