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Mirror Restoration

Discussion in 'Early Jeep Restoration and Research' started by Cj5dale, Jan 14, 2022.

  1. Jan 14, 2022
    Cj5dale

    Cj5dale Member

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    I have a 1970 CJ5 that has this mirror.

    2 questions:

    1). Is this a stock mirror for this Jeep

    2) if it is stock, is it possible to fix the rusted out holes? The metal seems pretty thin.

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    Thanks for your help and opinions

    Dale
     
  2. Jan 14, 2022
    Zoomer

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    Yes, it's stock. Most anything can be repaired with enough work, but you might be better off looking for a replacement.
     
  3. Jan 14, 2022
    Boyink

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    Cover the backside with sign vinyl.
     
  4. Jan 15, 2022
    timgr

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    Yes, this mirror was used through mid '74. Jeep PN 979383, which is a number from the late-60s-ish, so I'd expect it's right for a '70.

    Fixing it is just like body work. Not sure how easy or hard it would be to remove the glass. It's probably held in by a crimp of the steel around its perimeter. The rubber edge comes off, and would hide a lot of damage to the edge if you can't remove the glass cleanly. With the glass out, you can ding out the dents and fill the holes. I would use a glass-fiber filled putty like Duraglas. Sand and paint. A lot of work could be avoided if you can find a replacement in better condition.
     
  5. Jan 15, 2022
    Cj5dale

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    Thank you for the info. I’ll see what I can find out there. Thanks for providing the part number as well.

    dale
     
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    maurywhurt

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    Try Barney's Jeep Parts. My brother in law bought one of these mirrors from Barney a few years ago (NOS) - maybe he still has some in stock.

    http://www.ewillys.com/2020/04/20/barneys-jeep-parts/
     
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    Keys5a

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    Jeepsterman used to have a few (or more) of these mirrors a couple years back, and they were cheap.
    -Donny
     
  8. Jan 16, 2022
    Cj5dale

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    Thanks for the sources. I’ll check them out.
     
  9. Jan 16, 2022
    Barney's Jeep Parts LLC

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    We have them NOS. Prices will depend on the components needed. He has the mount block, gasket, and hardware already which will help as these are pricey. These mirrors were used on 69 - 75 CJ and Commando with a different mounting block.
    Look us up and give us a call if we can help. - Barney
     
  10. Jan 16, 2022
    Cj5dale

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    Hi Barney.
    I looked earlier today at the link provided above but didn’t see them

    I’ll give you a call tomorrow.

    thanks for responding to the post!
     
  11. Jan 19, 2022
    Cj5dale

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    Thanks for everyone’s suggestions and comments.

    I was able to locate a NOS replacement as well as the 5x8 drivers side mirror as shown in this photo I found in the historical photo archives forum.

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    Zoomer

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    Glad to hear you found what you need Dale!

    Where did you find the side mirror? Does it look correct? I've got an arm and mount, but need a new side mirror head.
     
  13. Jan 19, 2022
    Cj5dale

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    Got it from Barney’s Jeep Parts from the info above. Great guy to work with. Very knowledgeable.

    $35.00

    I need to paint it black but it looks correct to me.

    haven’t received it yet but here’s a pic he sent of the one I bought.

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  14. Feb 7, 2022
    kenb

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    Does anyone have a good photo of where that model rear view mirror is mounted on a later, curved glass windshield frame?
     
  15. Feb 7, 2022
    Cj5dale

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    Here’s where mine is mounted. For reference, the footman loop that the strap is attached to is dead center of the windshield.

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  16. Feb 8, 2022
    kenb

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    Thanks for that. Something is different on mine, not sure what. The mirror bracket and arm hit the windshield rubber about a half inch before the frame. Maybe it's my super awesome Omix windshield frame? Or am I missing a spacer of some sort?
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  17. Feb 8, 2022
    Cj5dale

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    This is a terrible picture but hopefully you can get an idea of what mine looks like from the side.

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  18. Feb 8, 2022
    kenb

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    Thanks, that is helpful. It appears you have a slightly different mounting bracket, unless that's just an illusion of camera angle. More depth in the section the screws go through. I should be able to fabricate a spacer for that area.
    My mirror was recovered from a flat top glass windshield where the windshield rubber wouldn't interfere. They must have changed the design when they went to curved top windshields.
     
  19. Feb 8, 2022
    Fireball

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    This is an observation I hadn't noticed before. I have both types in my '69 and '71 but always thought the mirrors were the same. I went out to the shop and measured them for reference.

    The '69 is about .400" inches this where the screws are:
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    And the '71 is about .570" thick where the screws are:
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    Interesting discovery. Your idea of a spacer should work fine.
     
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  20. Feb 8, 2022
    Cj5dale

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    @Fireball

    Can you provide a pic of the sun visors on your ‘71?

    I’m assuming those are stock?
     
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