This is why i stopped working on my Jeep

there are times when i wonder since my jeep has almost no jeep left in it.

scott thanks for the link.

 

oh yeh sparky dont feel bad. i cant fault you for thinking buick. im talking about a 3.8L oddfire v-6 yeh that sounds like the :v6:

 

Jeff what did you get that 229 ci V6 out of? How come your gonna use a Ford trans with it?

 

its the 229CI but from what i was told it came out of an '83 impalla. but i am not sure since i bought it from a guy who had it sitting in his garage on a tire. this is one lesson i leared, never buy unless you are 100% sure of what it came out of and how many miles are on it. i am seriously not sure why i went with the ford tranny. i think at the time the reason i decided on the ford was because i found one and i was having issues finding a chevy tranny that would work.

well guys i just pulled the oil pan off and since the only motors i have ever worked on were hondas i am not sure what exactly i am looking at ( like what is this second bank of cylinders ) i saw 2 large ( 3/4in diameter) holes drilled into the crank at each end that look like they are there for balance but i am not sure if thats what they really are there for.

 

Do the conecting rods share a journal or do they each have there own crank journal, an oddfire will have 3 connecting rod journals and an evenfire will have 6 connecting rod journals on the crank! The semi evenfire is a bigger bear to tell as the journals are rotated out of normal syncronization and still have only 3 journals and look like an oddfire..

 

please explain this more if you can. does this mean that the front and back journals would not be 180* off of each other? i have three journals and the front and back one are not 180* from the other more like about 20-30* off of 180* which i thought was strange but i guess it is not.

see i told you all i know numbers and theory but i dont know practice, like most people my age.

oh yeh, thanks Mike.

 

I can't explain it any better than I did, never actually seen one up close, just read about them. It sounds like yours is a semi even fire though.

 

ok well i will grab a pic so at least everyone can see what a semi-even fire looks like. hold on i got to take off the oil pump to do it.

 

don't mind the idiot over in the corner banging his head on the wall. the journals do not line up they are offset. here are pics to prove i'm a MORON

 

In that second picture. See in between the two piston rods. They are not sharing the same rod. The journals have an off set casting. By the looks of that I would say that you have a semi even fire motor. If it was an even fire, the casting woud be more off set. My marine V-6 motor shares the same journal just like a V-8 crank shaft. Also my Block has the four bolt main caps but the two outer bolts are not drilled and taped.

What no picture of your V-8 flywheel?

 

So with that big weight on the front end of the crankshaft, would you say it is internally balanced? :?

With a second look. Maybe it is an even fire. Hard to tell.

 

yeh thats one of those things where i am slaming my head against a wall for saying. but hey this is the first non-aluminum non-4 cyl i have ever looked at so cut me a little slack.

 

i got a semi-even crank in storage i can get a pic of if you guys want to see one without the rods on it.

 

if it would not be any trouble for you that might be a good thing.

 

not a problem, i believe this is what you guys are talking about. this picture brings up another question though, if storing a crank how are you supposed to do it?? it seems as though i've done it wrong and ruined a crank (which i wasn't really planning on using anyway)

the first picture is just an out of focus close up of the 3-4 piston journal, the second picture shows the difference really well in the 5-6 pistons, but i can't really see it well on this computer..

 

yep that looks like mine. thanks man.
chris any idea of what year motor that came out of? just so when i go to NAPA now i can at least have the correct year.

 

Storing a crank: oil the journals, wrap it in a trash bag, and stand it on end. Wire or tie it up so that it can't fall over.