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Solex stumble?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by w3srl, Apr 26, 2005.

  1. Apr 26, 2005
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    Anyone else here running a Solex carb on a 4-banger? Since I've finally got my Jeep essentially running now, I've been having some difficulty dialing everything in to make it run well. Don't get me wrong, it runs decently, but there is still an annoying little stumble just off-idle that wasn't there with the Carter carb. It runs like a raped ape when I get on it, but I really have to gas it to get past the flat spot when coming from a dead stop. It acts like my hyper 340 Mopar did when I had a really rumpty-rump cam in it.

    Idears fellas?
     
  2. Apr 27, 2005
    kelly

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    My 134 did the same after installing the Solex.A few things to check: fuel filter and fuel line,the filter in the carb itself,engine timing,coil,(if you have replaced the coil and it has an internal resistor, you need to bypass the external ballast resistor) These made a big difference in mine, but I still have a little hesitation. Am going to add a Pertronix electronic ign. soon, maybe that will help also. I've heard from many people here that it is an improvement. You may want to check the clutch adjustment, that may bog the engine down a little also if it's not adjusted right.
     
  3. Apr 27, 2005
    CT

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    I am running a solex with the stock F134. I know about the stumble you are talking about. For me that is trail speed when I am driving it around the farm. Just as Kelley did in the above post, I replaced the inline fuel filter and cleaned out the carb filter just below the fuel inlet.

    I also played a bit with adjusting the fuel / air mixture adjustment screw. With the engine warm and running at idle speed, I adjust the mixture screw until the motor is running as fast as it can at idle. I assume, this is about the optimum setting. Then I can adjust the idle setting at the linkage to get the rpm to about 600 rpm for idle.

    Have you done a full tune up with points, plugs, condenser and new plug wires? You would be surprised of how much that will help an old motor. I would first recommend changing your plugs. They might be fouling out a bit with some carbon or gas..

    And sometimes when my motor is running a bit sluggish at idle. I will take her for a spin on the highway (about 50 mph) and drive her about 6 miles to our closest general store. Fill up with gas and drive it back home. Seems like this 12 mile drive helps get her running better. And this maybe is just getting the spark plugs hot enough to burn off any un bernt gas and increasing the spark of the plugs. Most of my driving is really slow idling around the farm at probably around 1000 rpm. And I have a bad habit of doing a lot of lugging of the motor with my old man style of driving. I don't think my old 1956 could handle many more red line shift points.

    Looking forward to hearing some of the other guys solution to this problem. Hopefully they may have a better solution.
     
  4. Apr 27, 2005
    dohc281

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    I have the same problem with my solex and thought that the accelerator pump might be the problem. I'm going to try the fuel line filter route and still replace the accelerator pump.
     
  5. Apr 27, 2005
    Hawk62cj5

    Hawk62cj5 Captain of OldSchool

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    Same stumble here , But to be honest I KNOW that little filter in the carb has a bit of trash on it because Ive been taking it out every test run and cleaning debris off of it. I plan on replacing the big inline as soon as I run my first tank full of gas out. Im not going to adjust any thing till I get finish my first tank also because the more I run it the better it tends to run.
     
  6. Apr 27, 2005
    jd7

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    Had the stumble. The guy that had it before me said he couldn't get it out. Combination of plugs points wires large see through filter and fuel pump still had it. Took me about a week working in afternoon tuning, made sure had no vaccume leaks, which I did and fixed them. Anyway seemed to all come together with alternate turning of idle and mixture until it was gone. I did find that mine finally went away just after I moved past the too lean/backfire and idles at about 550 to 600 rpm. Oh by the way Steve that is one good looking flatfender in your avitar. Might treat us to some larger pics of it from time to time. ;)
     
  7. Apr 27, 2005
    blevisay

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    Guys check the dwell.........should be 40-42. Also I have noticed how picky the 134 is about timing.....if you hear ANY sputtering through the pipe its off. The solex is best tuned with the eng warm - hot IMO.
     
  8. Apr 27, 2005
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    Thanks guys, the plugs are brandy-new, and no dwell to set since the Pertronix went in. :D

    Do I understand that there *is* a factory filter in the inlet of the Solex? I have a big inline filter that I intend to install one day. All the lines, tank and carb are brand-new too.

    And thanks for the complement David. You can see the rest of the pix of the Flattie on my webshots account:

    http://community.webshots.com/user/w3srl
     
  9. Apr 27, 2005
    blevisay

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    Drooool
     
  10. Apr 27, 2005
    cj5 buggy

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    X2 :beer:
     
  11. Apr 27, 2005
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    You guys are too much. Trust me, it's more of a 30-50 foot Jeep once you get a load of the driveway paint job. :oops:

    Thanks Billy for setting me straight on tuning the Solex and the timing. The ol' flathead just Purrrrrrs like my old 409 now! Once it is warmed up it just wants to go!
     
  12. Apr 28, 2005
    blevisay

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    Found the sweet spot in the timing didya...........?
     
  13. Apr 28, 2005
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    Yup! <insert BSEG here>
     
  14. Apr 28, 2005
    blevisay

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    SWEET!

    Smoothed out and a buttload of power!

    I do think the little 4 gets a bad rap......a little tweaking goes a long way!
     
  15. Apr 28, 2005
    blevisay

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    While I am thinking about it.

    For the other F head guys out there.

    Use a timing Light!
    I found that the funky bracket that clamps the distributor with the 2 slots would not let me hit the sweet spot of 5 BTDC. Yes I moved plug wires and tried to sneak up on it the otherway. No dice.
    I happen to have the other older style clamp on a spare dist that allowed better tuning and hit it right off!
    I also found that 2 lobes on the dist were wore and not allowing the points to open fully on 2 cyls.
    Problem is with the F head is it will run being really bad out of tune.
     
  16. Apr 28, 2005
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    I searched long and hard to find a good, used distributor Billy. They are made of unobtainium nowadays. For awhile I had one of the offshore repros with points in there, and it made a world of difference compared to the worn-out one that was in there. The only problem was, I wanted a Pertronix setup, and it wouldn't fit in the repro housing. :mad:

    In the end I found an NOS Autolite distributor on e$ay and ponied up the coin for it. It was still in the cosmoline wrapper! :shock: The pertronix dropped right in and it fired over on the first crank.

    I'm a happy camper now. Solex & Pertronix is the bomb!
     
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