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You Can Convert A Tapered 44 To A Flanged

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by jdjsback, Apr 22, 2005.

  1. Apr 22, 2005
    jdjsback

    jdjsback New Member

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    Maybe I am tell some of you something you already know, but after exhaustive research and turning over countless rocks in search of the elusive 70 1/2 -71 off-set flanged 44 I discovered a guy that can convert it. I am also have it re-tubed longer and set up for discs at the same time. He is incredibly reasonable in labor and material as well. It is not done yet so I may be speaking too soon, but I went to his shop and he has been involved in countless build-ups, 4X4, HotRod, Drag racing, Lakebed racing, blah, blah, blah. In fact he often get referals from a little company called CURRIE ENTERPRISES that is very well known in the off road industry, maybe you have heard of them... :D . Anyway thought I would share as I have come across a number of people in the same dilema during my research.
     
  2. Apr 22, 2005
    53Flattie

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    Re: You Can Convert A Tappered 44 To A Flanged

    Not putting a needle to your bubble or anything, but speaking out of curiosity...

    Would it not be cheaper to go to a Wagoneer D44 (from a Q-trac)? By the time you re-tube, buy custom shafts, and add the disc mounts, it seems you would be past the *average* price for a used Waggy 44 ($200 - $300).

    Again - just speaking out of curiosity.

    And BTW: we need pics!!!
     
  3. Apr 22, 2005
    jdjsback

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    You could be right, but in my research I only found the AMC20 used with the Quadra-trak and that would be the off-set I am looking for. Please correct me if I am wrong, its not done and I have not spent the money yet. Oh BTW I am looking about $200 to retube, $150 to fab the disc mounts and since I already own the axle and the disc are a donation from a buddy who has a shop sponsored flat track car I see at as a good option. after that its axle and rebuild kit costs. Anybody disagree with my logic here... :shock: Please speak up.
     
  4. Apr 22, 2005
    53Flattie

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    I agree with everything here. $350 is probably about the same you would spend for a D44. But what about axleshafts? Are you not going to have them custom-made? That's where the big $$ would come into play...

    IIRC: '76-'79 FSJ's with Quadratrac all used the offset Dana 44 rear axle.

    Timgr - Can you confirm this?
     
  5. Apr 22, 2005
    jdjsback

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    Absolutely, custom shafts from this guy will run about $400 or $450 a set, but if I go Waggie length I can use those right???. Yeah, I know, I could just get a complete Waggie axle, but that would entail turning over more rocks, plus I would still be in for getting the Disc mounts fabed, and we are assuming I can get one in my hands for $200-$300 and believe me in So. Cal. that is a big assumption. I have had people quote me as much as $650 for a complete 44 of any kind, even with E-bay lets say I find one for $100 or $200 if I am lucky I still gotta get it here and I don’t know for sure what I have until its here and paid for….. Just too many variables for me. AGAIN ALL INPUT IS WELCOME, I am a sponge at this point.
     
  6. Apr 22, 2005
    DanStew

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    But the waggie axle is much wider than the CJ width, so if you are looking to keep the stock axle width, then the waggie will not be the best choice. I would also say consider the Full Float kit. may be cheaper than buying new axles shafts and haveing the machine work done to the axle housing.
     
  7. Apr 22, 2005
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    I think the key here is he is re-tubing
    that means the tube ends will be large enough to take the full size flanged axle bearings most likely
    I stll am leary about whether it can be done to a stock, tapered 44 housing
    somebody tell me I am wrong and show me the pics
     
  8. Apr 22, 2005
    jdjsback

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    BINGO!!!! The reason I went to talk to him in person and see the shop. He is for real, been doing this for a very long time. Now again I caution it IS NOT DONE but I questioned him at length and he assured me it was no problem. He actually tried to sell me on the benifits of the AMC20 which I have laying around as well, I know there are some up sides to the AMC20 like pinion size but all in all I think the 44 is the better choice.
     
  9. Apr 22, 2005
    DanStew

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    It is an arguement between the 20 and 44. the 20 is a bit stronger based on gear strength, and with the thicker tubes it really is a great axle, Main downfall is the aftermarket for the model 20. Not as supported as the 44.
     
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