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Wiring-what Does This Do?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by colojeepguy, Sep 28, 2019.

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  1. Sep 28, 2019
    colojeepguy

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    The connection for my brake light switch has this little....diode? Resistor? between the two sides of the plug. What is it and how do I test it?
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    47v6

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    Might be a diode to stop current flowing from one side to another bypassing the switch? Im not an electrical engineer. I would like others to chime in as I see this type of setup on other non related applications.
     
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    Focker

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    I'm thinking Chris is right, but I can't confirm.
     
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    Focker

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    If you're good with a multimeter, you could see if there is current flowing only one direction.
     
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    ITLKSEZ

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    That’s weird. If it’s a diode, any benefit would be negated by the current just flowing through the fuse. After the fuse blows, no current would pass, so no need for a diode.

    Looking forward to an answer on this.
     
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    Glenn

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    Didn't someone mention doing that for flat towing as a method for ease of hooking up brake lights?
     
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    Admiral Cray

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    It does look like a diode...
     
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    Focker

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    Yes

    You would use diodes with a permanent trailer harness to avoid backfeeding.
     
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    mickeykelley

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    Which is on my list for Willie now that I'm flat towing him between Texas and New Mexico and Colorado. Tired of magnetic lightsand want to continue to simplify prep time.
     
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    Glenn

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    That's what I thought.
     
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    Glenn

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    So then maybe Doug has one on his tail lights too.
     
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    colojeepguy

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    I thought the diode for flat towing went in one of the turn signals? Plus, this Jeep was never towed before I got it and I've always used magnetic lights.
     
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    I don't see an obvious band, so it's unlikely to be a diode. Plus I don't understand how a diode could be useful for towing in this location. If it conducts forward, it defeats the purpose of the switch. If it conducts backwards, that would cause backfeed, not prevent. Might be a varistor or even a capacitor, intended to protect the contacts in the switch from arcing.
     
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    Focker

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    I don't think we were saying it was used for towing in this particular case. I think we were just trying to remember the discussions earlier about diodes and flat towing?

    I was hoping you would see this thread and shed some light on it.
     
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    Glenn

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    Actually I was trying to wrap my head around how it would work for towing. I guess you didn't realize that I was thinking it must be for towing. After Tim's explanation I see it obviously couldn't work.
     
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    Looks amateurishly installed, whatever it is. Significant risk of short with all that bare lead exposed. I suspect you can slide the brass contacts out of the plastic shell with a pointy tool like a dental pick or jeweler's screwdriver. Usually the connectors have prongs that snap into the shell, and you can push them back to release the connector. This might reveal how this component is attached to the connector.
     
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    Glenn

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    Is it logical it could be simply for something to pull from to remove the plug?
     
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    colojeepguy

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    I pulled the wires out of the connector-

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    My issue is that this Jeep eats brake light switches, every couple of months. IDK if this thing has anything to do with it, I'm really grasping at straws....
     
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    Glenn

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    I assume you're buying what should be quality switches.
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Diode for sure, I see no reason for it to be there. Under normal circumstances it would do nothing, under abnormal circumstances... well there are no abnormal circumstances where it would do anything either except put you brake lights on if you connect your battery backwards.

    Note that the plug is not a stock item- that's actually a GM alternator plug, I see no reason to have a diode connected like that on an alt either. :confused:
     
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