Roll Bar Or No Roll Bar?

rusty · Jul 3, 2016

Keep it. Not hurting a thing .

colojeepguy · Jul 3, 2016

Howard Eisenhauer said: ↑

From no personal experience what so ever I maintain that a roll bar is a false sense of security on the highway- if you want the security of something over your head you need a roll bar & a front hoop behind the windshield- the windshield frame alone with a single bar will not give any guarantee of keeping the highway pavement from removing the front half of your brain.

As I type this my wife is standing behind me annoying the h377 out of me- she would not be able to do that if she had been belted into Tonk when the above occurred. If you elect to go without roll protection the *DO*NOT* install seat belts- argue all you want but history has shown that without roll protection you're better off out of the vehicle when it decides to be upside down.

Protection or not you're playing the odds- only you can make the choice.

H.
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The PO of my Jeep rolled it at highway speed when he hit an icy bridge...the standard single hoop roll bar in the Jeep was bent over at about a 20 degree angle but undoubtedly saved his life.
As far as seat belts with no roll bar....it's undoubtedly true that you don't want to be belted in the Jeep if it rolls, but it's also important to remember that not every accident is a roll over.
Myself, I have a standard roll bar, (no cage yet although I have given it serious thought) retractable shoulder belt for the front seats and lap belts for the rear.

mickeykelley · Jul 3, 2016

I don't know how the hell the 'real' Rat Patrol GI's could drive like they did and manage to stay in or avoid rollovers. For me, my original 58 has no belts or bar, YET. In the process as Willie is being rebuilt they are being added. False sense of security or not. Just makes sense to me.

Alan28 · Jul 3, 2016

I had a neighbour who died when his convertible car rolled (on him, seated). There is less safety in a Jeep than in a Volvo X90, there are choices to do. About belts, I have none, maybe a high safety belt is better but the best is not to drive taking too many risks.
I stopped using a motorcycle years ago, I use to say that I avoid death 3 times, maybe at less than 1 cm our 1 inch...
Or a finger. This is the difference between impact or not. At nearly 100 miles, this is luck. Not useful to look for too much luck.

Howard Eisenhauer · Jul 3, 2016

BobH said: ↑

Twin 2, you are incorrect about roll bars in military jeeps. I did 20 years and in the latter days of the M151 they installed roll bars because of that vehicles tendency to roll.
This is a world of free will, do what you want, but remember your wives, kids, moms, and dads that will be left behind. They are the ones that will suffer when they are left behind.
That is why I ALWAYS wear a helmet on my motorcycle.
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The Canadian M151's did get cages in the late 70's.

The US ones got ROPS around the same time.

There never was a system implemented for the M38A1s consequently the seat belts never got used until they were gone sometime in the 80's.

Interestingly enough the Iltis that replaced them didn't have a cage, just a roll bar but it was positioned further forward & was a bit higher in realtionship the the occupants.

Again, any choice you make apart from a full cage & 3 point belts is going to be a crapshoot.

H.

montanacj · Jul 3, 2016

I saw this on the 3b site it's worth a read.

http://cj3b.info/Finds/FindsAccident.html

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