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1967 CJ5 V6 225 starter wiring help needed

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Kyle Turnage, Feb 2, 2016.

  1. Feb 3, 2016
    Dave B

    Dave B Frankenjeep '67

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    I take it you had some success and have passed the early initiation test of jeep repair -- Good for you! I'm sure you'll file your notes.
     
  2. Feb 4, 2016
    Walt Couch

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    Lots of duplication of wiring going on there. If it was mine I would normal it up the way the 67 was originally wired to eliminate future headaches. Once you make up your wiring diagram the way it is wired now, you will see all the un-necessary wiring.
     
  3. Feb 8, 2016
    eti engineer

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    Is it me, or does that red wire look way too light for being a starter wire? This is the one that comes from the battery, correct? Usually they are the same size as the battery cables, (at least a 6 AWG -- this one looks like maybe a 10 AWG from the pix) or is this some kind of starter I haven't seen before?
     
  4. Feb 8, 2016
    Dave B

    Dave B Frankenjeep '67

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    Battery cable "doesn't seem to be in the picture".

    Mine is wired--as I remember while sitting in a chair: The big 3/8" stud has 2 wires--one is a red #2 gauge from battery, the second is a red 10 ga. which connects to the Alternator "Batt" stud (output) terminal.

    Then small stud "S" connects to ignition switch center "Starter" terminal and the small stud "R" connects to (+) coil terminal (which allows bypass of the ballast resistor while the ignition is switched to start).

    --If there was only one wire to the big stud it would be a heavy gauge battery cable from the battery (+), and then the alternator wire (output) would be on a different route to the battery (+).
     
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  5. Feb 9, 2016
    sterlclan

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    One big wire to large post and a 10 gage from alt to positive post is how I like to run em allows for a shorter run from alt to bat.
     
  6. Feb 9, 2016
    Johns1967CJ5

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    At the time I took that photo I did not have the battery cables yet. There is now the positive cable going to the large stud. Red wire goes to alternator.

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  7. Feb 9, 2016
    eti engineer

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    OK, you just had me wondering. I will go back to my room now...
     
  8. Feb 9, 2016
    Johns1967CJ5

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    Many have corrected my mistakes by asking questions like that. Thanks for looking
     
  9. Feb 9, 2016
    eti engineer

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    Agreed. It's all the same point from the view of an electron, whether the battery goes to the alternator first and then the battery, or the other way around. Something along these same lines I have learned from the high voltage testing I do, electrons are color blind when it comes to wires, or humans, or squirrels, or birds, etc. One thing they don't like is an AWG that is too small.
     
  10. Feb 9, 2016
    chris423

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    Kyle do you have a coil on the motor? If so one wire with constant 12v should be running from the switch to the coil .
     
  11. Feb 10, 2016
    Walt Couch

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    Chris this could be very misleading as I read it. You sure don't want a constant 12v running. You need SWITCHED 12v from the ignition to the coil +. To a person that is not familiar with auto wiring, you must be very clear or the guy on the other end may be going the wrong way. Just saying.
     
  12. Feb 10, 2016
    chris423

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    very true!! sorry
     
  13. Feb 10, 2016
    Kyle Turnage

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    Chris, you are correct. I do have a coil on the engine. On the back of the ignition switch it goes to the terminal block, and then to the coil.

    I would like to say thank you to all for contributing and for the information. Just a little while ago I got to drive the Jeep around the block for the very first time. It's far from perfect, but I'm about done with it. Found a few things to fix, brake light, speedometer cable, and fuel gauge. It's running right about 190* and charging, so I'm happy! Enough talking, I know everybody loves pictures.

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  14. Feb 11, 2016
    Walt Couch

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    Good looking jeep. Enjoy.
     
  15. Feb 11, 2016
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Sweet Jeep :)

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  16. Feb 11, 2016
    chris423

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    Congrats ! Nice jeep!
     
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