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Negative arch springs...

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by ITLKSEZ, Jan 12, 2016.

  1. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

    Disregarding the "Why?" for the time being...

    What vehicles were available with a negative arch spring?

    YJ springs were perfectly flat...

    I seem to remember the front springs in C-10 and K-10 Blazers/pickups having a negative arch, and my research is showing the C-10 as having a 1290# spring capacity. 2 1/12" wide, 52" long, centered pin, which might be a bit longer than I'm after. Were they negative arch from the factory, or just worn out?

    Ford F250s were negative arch with 25" in front of the offset pin, but are way too stiff unless I just use the main leaf and snail wrap leaf, but I'd probably then have to incorporate a traction bar to prevent axle wrap.

    Any suggestions to throw in the pot?
     
  2. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

    The vehicles you mention did indeed have negative arch front springs from the factory
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2016
  3. 47v6

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    My 84 blazer had them. Ride was awful.
     
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  4. timgr

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    The Chevys were definitely negative arch from the factory.
     
  5. scott milliner

    scott milliner Master Fabricator

    1988 Dodge Power Ram also had them.
     
  6. jeepermc

    jeepermc Active Member

    78/79 F-250 were also as well as the later models with TTB. I'd guess the rate is less on the straight axle springs.
     
  7. tymbom

    tymbom Member

    So flip some flat YJ springs over... The why has me curious though...
     
  8. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

    Thanks for the input guys.

    You might be onto something. Open the pack, swap the friction pads to the backs of the springs, reassemble the packs backwards.

    Spring steel is spring steel, right? A spring shouldn't care if it is being pushed one way or the other.

    My only reservation to doing that would be that the vehicle's weight would be on the top of the spring eye. The weight would be "opening" the spring eye, as opposed to sitting on the flat of the spring.

    International pickups did that at the shackle-end with skinny little 2" front springs. I guess if they weren't worried about it on a 1-ton truck....