1966-68 ? tuxedo park Mark IV ? build help

si i got a "new-to me" jeep from worldfamous 4x4 in burbank california.. i got the roller with a box of chrome trim.. no motor no trans stocck front rear axels .. im thinking of getting a sbc350 motor trans transfercase combo under the hood ... eather from a donor older gmc jimmy blazer or .. was thinking opf getting a xj and putting in the inline6 under the hood and drivetrain as well with wider axels ... ? dont know what rout to take but i was told read from few post that...
350 sb
twin T18
sm465
electric fuel pump fuel cell combo would be good ..
dont know mutch since its bare and i cant afford mutch im thinking of taking it to the forum for help ... any ideas builds that i can follow ...
i even was told a 4.3 FI from a S10 wouild be good to for donor.... so many choices so little money..
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any one have parts lol you wanna help with the build ... im finding all i can on CL for the $ remember budget is low dont want this to be a sick rock crawler for comp... just a trail rig with a wide stance.. starting from the bottom..
im going to clean her up as best and paint body chasis my self since thats all i have at the moment.... thanks

 

Welcome to the forum,


How good are you fabrication skills?

What is your main goal for the jeep?

Reason I ask it might be better to find the orginal drive train and put it back into the jeep. Rather than fabricate new motor mounts, crossmember and what not associated with swapping a Chevy 350 or the eletrical involved in the fuel injected v6. I am not saying it's impossible or hard. Just saying it potentially might be more cost effective to put in what the jeep was made for.

Other members will tell you their experiences and what not.

 

Inline 6 is to long for that early 81" Jeep.........the Buick V6 225's and the later 231's are always a good choice........plenty of support parts for each. The Fuel injected 4.3 or with some trimming the 5.7 also has plenty of support.
Take it slowly do some Forum hopping , pick up a JP Magazine and start looking at all the possibilities............

 

If your chrome parts are in good shape, you should be able to sell them to someone restoring a Tuxedo Park. They're fairly rare and assuming you aren't worried about originality, you could sell them for a decent amount of money to the right buyer. Then use that money for your build.

 

Welcome to the forum from Ga.

 

Welcome to the forum.

Just to reiterate and maybe add a little...

Forget an inline six. It can be done, but it will be a mess and you'll have too short a rear driveshaft. A 4.3L EFI Chevy V6 is a good choice. The engine compartment is short. A Chevy or Buick V6 will fit with no firewall cutting, though the Buick is a little easier than the Chevy because of the distributor location. The SBC V8 will fit too - lots have been done - but I think you'd be smart to go with the 4.3L or the Buick. Native EFI from a 4.3L should be straightforward - no tuning, just wires. By definition, EFI uses an electric pump. IMO, a fuel cell will be a bad idea - just use the factory tank or install a later Jeep CJ tank under the rear floor. Haven't seen it done, but a Wrangler tank should fit too, and would set you up for an in tank electric pump, which would work well with Chevy EFI.

A full size drivetrain, like from a Blazer, will be too long and too wide (too much offset from the transfer case) for your frame rails.

What's a "twin T18?"

The SM465 bolts up to a Chevy or a Buick, but the Ford transmissions are easy too (T18, T19, NP435) - just depends on what you can find. There's a lot of material about this in old posts if you search. Also read the info on the Novak site - www.novak-adapt.com - there's way more information on the truck 4-speed swap that we can cover in a single thread. Read, and read some more, then you can ask specific questions that will narrow what you want to do.

The factory T-90 or another Jeep Borg-Warner 3-speed will give you plenty of fun and will be an easy way to get on the road and trail. You could easily drop in a GM V6, T-90 and Dana 18 and be running and driving for town or trail, with minimum expense and hassle.

Wide stance? These Jeeps are narrow, and the axles are narrow. If you want to go wider, Wagoneer axles are popular, but you'll need to outboard the front springs and weld new perches on the rear. It can be done, but half your tire will be outside the fender edge. I would put off any such plans until you are running and driving, and you've had a chance to wheel it. CJs in factory trim are remarkably capable - you'll be surprised. I suggest you focus on getting it running and driving, and don't try to plan too far ahead.

 

Oh, and we need pictures.

:uwop:

 

i was talking about twin stick T18
and its hard to find OEM parts here in los angeles not one cj5 in the junk yard around here ...
i would love to run original v6 and transfer case
im mainly want a trail rig not a DD i use my 97 tj for that and its built not bought

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/42961849@N05/15717711745/in/photostream/
there ias tyhe link i dont know why it wont just pop up here but feel free to click on the link

 

T18 is a 4-speed truck transmission. The transfer case is a D18, Dana-Spicer model 18.

Check your local Jeep/4x4 forums for parts. There's also J&W near Sacramento. There used to be Scotty's in Fontana, but they are gone now. Check the Jeep forums like this one for parts - post in the WTB (want to buy) forums there. Try the Willystech forum too. Lots of sources.

If you want to buy rebuilt, contact Herm www.hermtheoverdriveguy.com or R&P in Oregon. I know that Herm will ship you a rebuilt T-90 or D18. The GM to T-90 adapters are available on the used market. The Jeep T18 is another possible transmission, being a truck 4-speed and easy to adapt to a GM bell. Check eBay too.

There is more than one way to skin a cat.

 

thanks for all the help guys tim, walt tarry , piffy

 

I can see them. Replacement column, suspended pedals. What kind of steering do you have? (With rare exception, there are only two answers - Ross (original) or Saginaw).

If you want to embed the pics, you'll need to hot link them into the forum. The forum will not store your images - no money in the budget for image storage.

Here's a link for how to hot link from ImageShack - Photobucket should be similar. http://fsjnetwork.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=1152

 

thanks guys for all your help

 

i have the Saginaw i think its bolted up to the frame behind the front bumper its big
ill take more pics when i get home and post them

 

cj51 by sergiolomeli, on Flickr

 

2jeeps by sergiolomeli, on Flickr

 

cj51 by sergiolomeli, on Flickr

 

tub front by sergiolomeli, on Flickr

 

Looks like a front mounted Saginaw steering box and a one piece tie rod. Should be a good setup IF it was done properly.

 

here are few more pics i dont know what type of motor mounts are in it can some one ID



1 by sergiolomeli, on Flickr